So new....what do I do?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by 1007matchsticks, Jun 25, 2014.

  1. 1007matchsticks

    1007matchsticks Bobtail Member

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    My husband is a true entrepreneur and he has ventured from a painting business, to a roadside assistance business into a trucking business. He does not have a CDL, but we have the best driver in the world and though we are the owners - we are in a partnership with him for our trucking company more or less. He knows so much about driving, but when it comes to running the business end, he cannot tell us too much. We are in 100% - up and running active as of yesterday and we are searching for our first load. I have tried to learn all the terms I can, but I am seeing pay from 1.20 a mile to 3.83 a mile on these load boards. There are lump sum amounts and fuel surcharges and not...I need to know what is a good rate, how the paperwork flows (what do I need to buy in the way of blank bills of lading or proof of delivery receipts) what I can expect to be given and how do I get the POD from the driver to submit for billing when he is 2400 miles away from us? A pic from his phone? I've looked all over for a scenario to read, but these details are all skipped over and I feel like an ignorant idiot talking these brokers who I know are going to take me for all I'm worth and I'll be drooling and saying 'duh, I didn't know' all along the way. Who can type fast and let me know what we just dove head first into here? MUCH THANKS....
     
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  3. CrappieJunkie

    CrappieJunkie Wishin' I was fishin'

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    Umm...glad to see your up and running but, and I mean no offense when I say this, shouldn't u have figured these things out first??? That being said, don't know much about rates as I'm a company driver, but can tell you companies get the PODs via fax or overnight mail, or get a portable scanner for the truck and have them scanned in.
     
  4. 1007matchsticks

    1007matchsticks Bobtail Member

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    You're absolutely right. We have been knee deep in research for 6 months. I have learned more than I thought my brain could hold. It is little details that are being worked out now. I have heard many complaints about low mileage pay etc., - so I am looking for 'the norm' and I thought a forum would be the best place to hear that. I am looking for usual practices, tips and tricks and red flags to look out for. Mostly I have heard the shipper gives you the BOL - so does that (in usual circumstance) become the POD and get signed at drop off? Is it better to have theirs and make one of our own (having two records of the shipment from a business perspective to reference two different pieces for record keeping to search if a problem arises or is that just giving myself extra work) etc. etc.
     
  5. Mark Kling

    Mark Kling Technology Contributor

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    Make sure the business is covered for DOT as to what driver records are needed... Drug testing is a big one...plenty of threads in the O/O section on this.
     
  6. CrappieJunkie

    CrappieJunkie Wishin' I was fishin'

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    Yes it does. They sign the bol and give it to the driver once they finish unloading.
     
  7. CrappieJunkie

    CrappieJunkie Wishin' I was fishin'

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    Make sure you follow all DOT regs. They require drivers to keep log books etc
     
  8. just_the

    just_the Light Load Member

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    climb onboard; solidarity baby
     
  9. CamelTransport

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    I have similiar questions. Did you find out the answers? We are at about the same step.
     
  10. Oscar the KW

    Oscar the KW Going Tarpless

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    I moved this into Ask an O/O, I think you will get better responses here.


    If he has no financial stake in the company then he is not a "partner" but an employee.


    You need to know what your cost to operate is, I like to figure mine solely on a mileage basis, others use a daily number, some use both, some used fixed, variable, and mileage. There is no wrong way to do it, just make sure that EVERYTHING is figured into it, one that I think a lot of folks fail to add into this number is replacement cost of equipment. Once you have your cost of operation then you will know what your break even point is, add to this what you want/need for a profit and that is YOUR rate, it never hurts to ask for more either.


    POD is a signed bill of lading, I use one of these http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...CR5MZ3UO1oDDd9nPw&sig2=zrZ5u1N5jHUAFyIfZVy6vw it is small and sends it directly to my phone, I can then email it to wherever it needs to go, there are no hassles with truck stops or complaints from anyone on clarity of the document. You can also make up your POD forms, but I think they are a waste of time and money, and are redundant.


    You dove into a hornets nest, but that's ok, many before you have, and many more after you will, and there are a lot of success stories to have come out of it. I think the biggest thing when dealing with brokers is to always know the answer to any question they might ask you, you need to sound confident at all times, always know what you want to haul a given load before making the call. They can sense fear and uncertainty in your voice, and being new at this you will have this, it is completely normal, but in time you will overcome it. Be prepared to here "we don't have that in it" a lot. Some of them will be lying when they say that, others will not, they like to say things of this nature to keep their profit margins higher, and they can't be blamed for this, I would do the same thing. You will make a lot of calls for nothing, but once you hit the right one with a load that has got to go, it will all be worth it. It is the game, welcome to it and enjoy!
     
  11. Rontonio

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    While I do not normally respond to start up threads, I will give you 2 recommendations for getting everything going.

    First, Search for the NASTC website and call them. They have a fuel card that will help you get discounts and more importantly control information and spending. The fuel card can be set to control how much fuel can be purchased - I know you have the "best" driver ever but you can be stolen blind in this area alone 50 gallons at a time, cash if you choose to allow cash advances, oil or other purchases or repairs are required. The card can be setup to require the information you will need for IFTA reports as well as tracking you MPG. The requirment that you go to TN for their training class will be worth it in your case. They will try and sell you their other services while in the class but again, in your case that will be very helpful. They have a program that will get you started with driver files, drug testing, IFTA filings, Log Auditing, and software to help you track/invoice loads - it's called MSP 2 and it is only around $100 per month. They will help you prepare for your new entrant audit and provide ongoing training - web and cd based - for your driver.

    Second, set up your truck/driver with a good set of electronic tools as Oscar suggested. To turn your cash faster you want the driver to be able scan bills, receive load confirmations, print any required documents and be reachable via cell/text/email. I personally carry priority mailenvelopes and stamps with delivery confirmation bar codes and mail my invoices and bills the day I deliver to get paid as fast as possible. It is well worth the money to get the printer/scanner, wi fi and smart phone. Being able to take pictures and send them to whom ever when required can be the difference between a small problem and a huge issue.

    Just remember when you book loads - they want to move the freight as much as you want to move it - always put the pressure on them to pay more. Asking for 5%-15% more does not cost you anything but can be a huge boost to your bottom line. Also, you are allowed to say NO I won't haul it for that, even if they say some other giuy will.

    Lastly, get set up with a program like quick books to help you track all you expenses. I do trip recaps both for fuel and profitability, then roll those up to monthly, quarterly, an annual reports. It will be prety clear after the first month or two how much you need for each loador mile.

    Good Luck
     
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