So why does everyone hate the safety director?

Discussion in 'Questions To Truckers From The General Public' started by Meltom, Apr 6, 2011.

  1. Big Don

    Big Don "Old Fart"

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    Right on the money VIDEODROME. What I believe is, that they created the job to please the DOT. I am aware of two different safety people who left the job, because they backed the drivers instead of dispatch. Actually, it was a case of them fighting the sales, because sales was committing to do the impossible, (legally) for the customer.

    It came down to a matter of company management backing the sales/marketing/dispatch and telling the safety department to "deal with it." So my question here is, "Why have a safety department at all, if you are doing business this way?"
     
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  3. ronin

    ronin Road Train Member

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    I don't know that I could rightfully be a safety director at a company, given that I know what goes on behind closed doors in dispatch and management.. I'd be arguing pretty much every day, and if I wasn't winning, I'd be leaving.

    I think my safety director career would last as long as my psychologist/counselor career.
     
  4. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    They should rename the lot of them 'Compliance Director,' as that is a far more accurate descriptor. And while the bureaucrats in gov't don't seem to understand that safety and compliance are not the same, I'd guess most of those with "boots on the ground" understand this. Far too many of the safety guys spend too much time on the paper trail to spend time actually equipping drivers to be safer drivers. Imagine the benefit of a company being able to spend some of the small fortune spent on compliance on teaching drivers to be better drivers, rather than better bookkeepers.

    I know... but we can dream, can't we?
     
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  5. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    It's funny that you say that, in my role I'm trying to educate drivers about the behaviors they demonstrate that make them unsafe. Some conversations go really well, and others end up not so hot. I figure either way the driver that I just got done speaking to will think about safety for a little while. Even if that thought is "I hate that M-effer".
     
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    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    Be interesting to see if there's a statistical correlation to accident rates for listeners/non-listeners, broke out by experience level.
     
  7. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    I've already got spreadsheet going, I can just color code it according to the level of buy in on the call. Than in the event of an accident I can see if they made the list, and what there perceived level of interest was.

    I actually like that idea, and it should be easy enough to do. I mean it will still be totally flawed as far as research goes but it could be interesting.
     
  8. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    My guess is you'll find a pretty fair tie in to attitude. Of course you'll have those who seem to listen, but don't follow through; and those who are hostile but do actually go back and think about it. They will be exceptions though, I would think, and not numerous enough to throw the numbers off very much.
     
  9. GuysLady

    GuysLady Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    My husband had this one safety director.. there was nobody that didn't love him. He seemed to know exactly how to treat anyone in order to get the best response. While he was running safety at that company, their out of service rate was 3% or less, consistantly.
     
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  10. ‘Olhand

    ‘Olhand Cantankerous Crusty

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    The one thing I haven't seen mentioned here--is all the other jobs that typically fall on a safety director--which can be an extremely daunting task at any company with just a few trucks--let alone a big fleet--next time one of y'all wondering what/why they do--think about driver qualifying--then drug/alcohol testing--and the about 50 other pieces of paper in any new drivers file that must be maintained for DOT Compliance--then add to that--checking logs--driver reviews--the drivers that can't seem to get anything right--updating registrations/permits etc.....
    There is a ton of stuff before we even start to discuss--why he is telling you what to do---
    Then there is the driver's who constantly say d/m is making me do-----
    and the operations department screaming about loads to cover--and the shop foreman screamin I don't give a ######--that trucks do not going anywhere--or the reverse--telling shop foreman FIX it--etc etc etc...
    Then there is the 15 incidents a day--hell could have been all parked trucks--but yup they are in it up to their #####--
    Oh yeah and when the DOT comes a calling--guess who they want to see?
    And this is all b4 their first cup of coffee!
    And some wonder why they just might come across as an #####***E from time to time?
    Step back and try to look at big picture--they couldn't PRINT MONEY fast enough for me to take their job.......
    Just my$.02
     
  11. GuysLady

    GuysLady Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    That old fart I mentioned? I loved to go in and help with safety... did all the paperwork he would let me, just to hang out with him. But I never want to do his job. He took it personal. I will never forget how dogged he looked for almost a month after one of the drivers was killed. You know he did not let CHP go talk to the drivers wife? He did it himself. He made the funeral arrangements for her. He took care of everything. He even helped her find an attorney to sue the other driver... All of it.. I wouldn't want his job.
     
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