so, you think your safe with the elog and hos.

Remember...IIRC RM mentioned something about the clock ticking whenever the rig is fired up...
And an aside...When we're home as O/O's...Why is washing the truck or polishing the chrome considered a "Line 4 Item"?.....


The rules are getting ridiculous...
When are we going to be required to wear ankle monitors to prove we were off when we were at home?....

You know that's coming as well...

 

It really is a bit much, going to be interesting to see where all this leads to.

 

as long as drivers suck it up and demand other drivers suck it up, the sky is the limit

these folks will require shock collars, blood testing (cant have diabetics in trucking), urine analysis before you start up your truck (what is wrong if you have nothing to hide), food intake regulations (cant drive for 30 minutes after eating)

shucks, KY is already trying to enforce no eating and driving

them passing laws means NOTHING, its drivers COMPLIANCE to these laws is what counts

and sadly, many drivers are nothing more than clean-cut sheep

 

That's the way you and I do it... half of these whiners log a fairy tale, and just don't know what they'd do when Ms ELD rats 'em out. Works the same way on elogs right now. Just go over, and add some remarks... your truck isn't going to blow up or suddenly stop in the middle of the road.

What "new rules?" Outside of the milk 'n cookies break and stupidness over the 34-hour reset the regs really haven't changed in quite awhile. If you couldn't make a living legally last year, the fact that you may have an electronic logbook enforcing line 3 isn't going to change that.

 

So....I have to ELOG it when I polish the chrome in my driveway.....Bull shot!!!!

DOT can go pound sand if they expect that....

 

Btw...The ELOGs enforce all the lines...No?....

 

Nope... just line 3. With the present elog system, you get to edit 1, 2 and 4 as necessary. The system senses movement (within the parameters set by your carrier) and puts you on line 3. When you stop long enough or pull the brake handle, it puts you on line 4. You have to adjust the line 4 time to reflect what you're doing off-duty.

The part of the proposed regulation that implies it'll put you on line 3 every time the engine starts is unworkable. When you need to idle the engine for whatever reason during a 10-hour break, you'd never get to the end of it.

I heard something on Sirius Radio the other night... paper logs have given us the flexibility to make a very unwieldy and inflexible set of HOS rules work. With the advent of electronic logging to the letter of the HOS, it will become apparent to the major carriers that the new system won't work. There will be a lot of pressure on the FMCSA to adjust it to something that will work.

 

the megas have been the ones pushing this

and once the govt enacts a control and monitorig system, there aint no turning back

 

Don't worry WCP, with the new fuel mileage ratings,,,,, no trucks will have any chrome to polish, you know, aero drag and all!

 

Yeah... pretty much, although my response would be explicit, likely to invoke the profanity filter and get Ms BHW all riled up! (Yes, darlin', I know my ice is thin!!)

The big carriers piled on the bandwagon, but it's the safety Nazis that have really been pushing it. Yep... when Big Brother get's going on something, it usually takes a pack of legal beagles with an agenda to get it turned around.