so, you think your safe with the elog and hos.

Please enlighten me. Why would they require duplicates?

 

I am not the one who claimed it in the first place. You were saying they could fine for not having duplicates in the truck.

The driver is only required to provide a copy of the last 7 days plus the current one. It does not say duplicates or copies. It says copy.

Read your posts on it.

 

Last time. Here we go....................WHY IS THE WORD DUPLICATE IN THE LANGUAGE OF 395.8? (Hint.....there is a reason)

 

Guidance: A driver must prepare a second original record of duty status to replace any page taken by an enforcement official. The driver should note that the first original had been taken by an enforcement official and the circumstances under which it was taken.

 

Sorry I lied to you earlier but this time I mean it.............UNCLE........UNCLE!

 

Because most people are smart enough to know that they have to complete one log and retain another in the truck.

Now in order to get paid when you lease, many companies refuse to pay until the load comes in with the Log Sheets.

A driver is required to submit the originals to the carrier within 13 days. This means they can be submitted the day after they are prepared.

A driver is required to have copies of the previous 7 days in their possession.

Now, since you are 100% sure that the original needs to be in their possession, why does the FMCSA say the driver must have copies of the previous 7 days.

Now, look at the computer generated logs and you will see that it states to print a copy.




(2) The driver shall retain a copy of each record of duty status for the previous 7 consecutive days which shall be in his/her possession and available for inspection while on duty.


Question 28: May a driver use a computer to generate his or her record of duty status (log book) and then manually sign the computer printouts in lieu of handwritten logs?
Guidance:
A driver may use a computer to generate the graph grid and entries for the record of duty status or log books, provided the computer-generated output includes the minimum information required by §395.8 and is formatted in accordance with the rules. In addition, the driver must:
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[TD="class: nr"]1.[/TD]
[TD="class: nr"]Be capable of printing the record of duty status for the current 24-hour period at the request of an enforcement officer.[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD="class: nr"]2.[/TD]
[TD="class: nr"]Print the record of duty status at the end of each 24-hour period, and sign it in his or her handwriting to certify that all entries required by this section are true and correct.[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD="class: nr"]3.[/TD]
[TD="class: nr"]Maintain a copy of printed and signed records of duty status for the previous 7 consecutive days and make it available for inspection at the request of an enforcement officer.[/TD]
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Question 29: Are drivers who electronically scan a copy of their original record of duty status (RODS) for subsequent submission to the motor carrier required to prepare the RODS in duplicate?
Guidance:
No. Although 49 CFR 395.8(a)(1) states, "Every driver who operates a commercial motor vehicle [in interstate commerce] shall record his/her duty status, in duplicate, for each 24-hour period," the intent of the requirement may be fulfilled through the electronic submission of a scanned image of the original handwritten RODS to the regular employing motor carrier within 13 days following the completion of the form, while the driver retains the original records for the current day and the previous 7 consecutive days. Because existing regulations concerning the preservation of records (49 CFR 390.31) allow motor carriers to store electronically a scanned image of the original handwritten RODS submitted by drivers and essentially dispose of the original paper document, there is no adverse impact on the enforcement of the HOS regulations, and subsequently no compromise on the application of the safety requirement by allowing the driver to submit a scanned image of the original signed RODS to the regular employing motor carrier within 13 days of the completion of the record. Motor carriers must maintain the scanned image of the signed RODS and all supporting documents for each driver for a period of six months from the date of receipt (49 CFR 395.8(k)).

 

In order to get paid? Has NOTHING to do with the topic. And I'm not going there(elogs).

 

Nobody said anything about elogs but you.

 

Sorry my bad.........computer generated......