so, you think your safe with the elog and hos.

Remember back when they were only going to put "bad actors" on elogs. That would have been so much nicer.

 

That was the intent of the whole thing, but I believe it was to see how hard it would be. In addition, they were surprised by the number of the companies that were interested in just doing it on their own.

 

The timeline for that would have been decades, granted they would have eventually gotten to the point where legislation was passed for everyone, but it would be in the distant future.

 

Might have been, but they have been planning since 1990. Look at the time line of the EOBR on the landline site.

 

Please don't forget this little tidbit of when government is used as a weapon to stifle competition is where the trouble begins.
Yes the government may have in fact been very much interested as well as many companies but if the lawyers running America in the ground would just simply have placed the industry under the same antitrust laws as the health-care industry and or pushed for tort reform all these billions of dollars spent would be a non issue.

 

I always here this "stifling competition" argument. Somehow, I don't see how. Hours on paper, or hours on an Elog are the same thing. Oh, I forgot, paper allows some to play silly little games with HOS. Like the guy who killed a state trooper in Illinois and injured a highway worker. Or the driver who didn't even fill out the log book for 3 days, and killed several students in a van that was returning to college from an outing. Too bad the daughter of the head of Indiana DOT was one that got killed. That driver will be living in an 8x10 concrete apartment for quite some time.

Now, this is not saying that someone with an Elog would not do the same thing, but if both Elog user, and paper user, were doing things properly, there is no competitive edge by doing logs on paper. It is just a ruse to argue for playing coloring book games with a log. And truth be told, if so many weren't playing fast and loose with paper logs, we wouldn't be having this Elog stuff rammed down everyone's throat. The big carriers may be pushing it, but they have a lot of ammunition in their arguments when Billy Bob Bigrigger is drumming up a lot of business for trial lawyers.

 

Today it's E-Logs.
What will tomorrow bring?
Would anyone be willing to accept a chip
embedded in a suitable location within their
body for tracking purposes? It would be in
the interest of improving safety and would
save thousands of lives.
As an added bonus, the implant would be at
no cost to the recipient, courtesy of the
American taxpayers.

This is the era of electronics. Surveillance
cameras, satellites, drones, infrared heat
sensitive optics, night vision goggles, facial
recognition, voice recognition, and data bases
to store all the collected information for future
reference. So why not take all that technology
and incorporate it into the Big truck truckin'
industry?
What's not to like?

Those who follow the rules should have no
objections to being monitored 24/7/365
to prove they're not breaking any laws.
For those who refuse to conform and continue
to circumvent the rules, the information that's
collected, filed and stored can be used against
them in a court of law to assure a guilty verdict
is rendered.
To discourage attempts to disable any electronic
devices or otherwise falsify logs, elevate the
offence to a felony with a minimum sentence
of 5-years.
No plea bargaining.
No early release.
No mercy.

 

Oh so when we all go on elogs there will be no more accidents.or at least the kind you pointed out .you keep believing that

 

I'm pretty sure he didn't say that...

I understand why people don't like Elogs. Personally I have no problem with them, they're better for record retention, accuracy, and gauging compliance. The only thing I have a problem with is a mandate that says you must be on elogs. Everyone should have the choice. If you choose to operate on paper that is your choice and while there is some freedom up front, there are potential pitfalls if you find yourself in a bad situation. Adding technology to trucks is less about spying on drivers than it is about mitigating losses. I just got back from spending some time with some industry leaders in safety and was happy to see that in some regards the company I work for is ahead of the game. But what I was most surprised about was how companies are using these emerging technologies to retrain drivers and deal with litigation.

 

Well said, couldn't agree more, with things being the way they are with this world we live in "CYA" has become a phrase to live by. It also seems (to me at least) that most of the drivers that are truly up in arms about it are either company drivers or one truck O/O's.

I think if they had other drivers working for them, with their name on the door and all responsibility landing at their feet, I think they would change their mind, I know, because at one time, I was on the "other" side of the fence.