so, you think your safe with the elog and hos.

The QualCom system will ask you if you want to add those hours logged by the shop onto your account when you log back into the system. You select "NO" and go on with your day. If the logs department has any problems with this, they'll send you a nastygram on the QC.

 

All day long, MWH suck.

 

All this logging off and on stuff. Guess I have never dealt with that. I only logged in when the box got put in the truck and don't ever log out, and won't, until the box gets yanked out. Not slip seating or anything. And if I take my truck to a shop, before I drop off the keys I set it to off duty driving in the event the tech takes it out and moves it around or needs to do a road test. I guess that answers why I couldn't figure out why people would have to log in to start the truck. Silly me.

And this "per the proposal, anytime you fire up the engine, the clock has to be ticking" stuff. Please post a link or a copy of the part of the proposal that says this and let's see it. You could be correct, but in everything I have read from all the fleet management insider emails and alerts I get, there has not been a single mention of the clock must be ticking when the truck starts. Well, not quite true. The clock on my dash is always ticking.

I have been tracking this stuff pretty much daily, and the clock must be ticking stuff reeks of paranoia.

 

See post 16.

Here is the link to the proposal.

http://www.jjkeller.com/wcsstore/CVCatalogAssetStore/references/transport/2014/032814proposal.pdf

See page 13

 

Ok. Page 17669 of the proposal via the link you provided.

When the ELD records the required dataset.
Today’s SNPRM proposes to require the ELD to record the dataset, including geographic information as described above, at 60-minute intervals when the vehicle is in motion, at the time of any duty status change the driver inputs, and when a CMV’s engine is powered up or shut down. Further, if a motor carrier has allowed drivers to use a CMV for personal conveyance or yard moves, a driver’s indication of the start and end of such occurrences will also record a dataset; these are not indicated as separate duty statuses. The ELD would record the account logged into the ELD at the time of the recording, including a standard identifier when a driver may not be authenticated.

The driver is not required to be logged in per this. If the driver is not logged in, a standard identifier (i.e. an identifier that is tied to the ELD on the vehicle) will be used. So, while the ELD will record location and status at a vehicle engine start up, the driver is not required to be logged in, only that if the driver is not logged in, the data will be recorded using the standard ELD identifier.

Didn't take long to glean this out. Comes from spending 13 years in the Federal Government and reading this kind of BS every day.

 

Considering that the link I provided was only 70 pages long. Found on register page 17668 not 17669 Also, the beginning of the comment is When the ELD records the required dataset. They are also looking for driver authentication as well.

 

Hooray, more BS to read!

 

Only 70 pages? Were you wanting more?

 

They are still looking for ways of having driver authentication. So, in respect, what I posted is still the plan to reconcile to the starting and stopping of the motor and the personal uses. They are looking at ways of stopping editing of the logs as well.

 

when they are finish, it will be a worse mess