so, you think your safe with the elog and hos.

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by snowwy, Mar 28, 2014.

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  1. KANSAS TRANSIT

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    I agree D, and that is why I said

    "Now, for operations where drivers have VERY tight schedules, appointments, or little decision making freedom, I CAN see some issues, but I think some are missing the picture, a LOT of those issues have more to do with the way the regs are written than the way the ELD works."



    IF you have the freedom, I found it fairly easy to plan around most issues, BUT, if you have specific dock time, or a window of pickup or del. I can appreciate the issues, but again, I will say that the issues are not as much a problem with the ELD as they are with the way the regs are written.
     
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    Only if the "loose leaf" logs were your standard carbon and staple type...
    Mine are printed on "Legal" paper and also have the PTI on them....There is no carbon copy....
    Since I'm the carrier...I "Send them" to myself....
    Basically...I remove the 9th day from the binder......

    I have been told by DOT before they require the driver to carry the carbons....
    But according to my local FMCSA/CHP inspector (The officer who does the BIT) that's not true....
     
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    Perhaps the new career could be a Scale House Inspector.....
    With these new proposals and their likelihood of becoming law....You can be sure the gov't will offer commissions to officers who catch the violators....
     
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    What pisses me off again....Is that I as a carrier will have to buy one...Use it but...The data stored on it...Is not mine...And I'll have to pay monthly fee???...To keep tabs on myself?....That's bull crap....
    What's next...The gov't is going to charge us rent on our own thoughts?....
     
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    You're just going to have to do a better job of planning, and have a thorough understanding of how to use the HOS regs to your advantage... and that's the key to using ELDs.
     
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    So how does one plan on avoiding the 10 car pile-up on an interstate 20 miles ahead, with no off-ramps to detour around it again?....

    So by having a ELOG...We're supposed to develop Clairvoyance?...
     
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    You don't, you just document and log it as it happens.
     
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    So, how would you log that on paper?
     
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    And you sit.....Then move....Sit....Move...All the while clock is ticking....And you're going nowhere real fast....And then the broker wants you cut the rate.....
    Well...Good thing I rarely do "JIT's".....
     
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    Make it look legal....You have to ask?....
     
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