Speed limiter comment period extended until July 18th

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by TheLoadOut, May 26, 2022.

  1. TheLoadOut

    TheLoadOut Road Train Member

    Nov 6, 2019
    After receiving requests from the Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association and the American Trucking Associations to extend the comment period of the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration’s speed limiter proposal, the agency agreed and is adding 45 days for industry experts to weigh in.

    The advance notice of supplemental proposed rulemaking docket will now remain open for comments through July 18. It was previously set to close June 3.

    As of Thursday morning, the proposal had received more than 12,000 comments since the comment period opened May 4, with the majority of those comments coming in opposition to any sort of speed limiter mandate.

    FMCSA’s notice is an exploratory measure to determine how best to potentially implement speed limiters and does not offer specifics as to any speed to which trucks would be limited. The agency’s notice leans heavily on trucks’ engine control unit (ECU) as the means to limit trucks to a certain speed.

    In its notice, FMCSA asks commenters questions mostly related to ECUs and how speed limiters would work with ECUs.

    Readers can find specific questions the agency asks and file a comment via this link.
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  3. skallagrime

    skallagrime Road Train Member

    Apr 10, 2012
    Specific questions they ask:

    II. Request for Public Comments
    FMCSA requests comments on the programming or adjustment of ECUs that could be made to impose speed limits on CMVs, including responses to the questions below.

    General Questions: Setting and Maintaining ECUs
    1. What percentage of the CMV fleet currently uses speed limiting devices?

    2. If in use, at what maximum speed are the devices generally set?

    3. What skill sets or training are needed for motor carriers' maintenance personnel to adjust or program ECUs to set speed limits?

    4. What tools or equipment are needed to adjust or program ECUs?

    5. How long would adjustment or reprogramming of an ECU take?

    6. Where can the adjustment or reprogramming of an ECU be completed?

    6.a. Can the adjustment or reprogramming of an ECU be made on-site where the vehicle is ordinarily housed or garaged, or would it have to be completed at a dealership?

    7. Do responses to questions 3 through 6 change based on the model year of the power unit?

    8. Since publication of the NPRM, how has standard practice or technology changed as it relates to the ability to set speed limits using ECUs?

    9. Are there any challenges or burdens associated with FMCSA publishing a rule without NHTSA updating the FMVSS?

    10. Should FMCSA revisit using the 2003 model year as the baseline requirement for the rule?

    11. Should FMCSA consider a retrofit requirement in the rule and, if so, should it be based on model year or other criteria, and what would the cost of such a requirement be?

    12. Should FMCSA include Classes 3-6 ( i.e., 10,001-26,001 lbs. GVWR) in the SNPRM?
  4. TheLoadOut

    TheLoadOut Road Train Member

    Nov 6, 2019
  5. Brettj3876

    Brettj3876 Road Train Member

    Nov 18, 2014
    Stuck in Limbo
    Me either..... besides no.10. Very ominous questions
  6. scott180

    scott180 Heavy Load Member

    Dec 10, 2012
    Tooele, UT
    Just by the questions you can tell the decisions have already been made.

    The only question is what speed?
    Well since the speed won't automatically adjust for different locations then a single maximum must be determined.
    So do you think it'll be 80 like many areas or 55 like in CA.
    Remember how the people in charge feel about climate change. 55 would be the most fuel efficient speed so I'm betting 55-65 nationally.

    I get 25 % percentage of the load but what if I got cpm?
    I just did 703 miles in a day that went right.
    I averaged 68.5 mph on a 72mph governed truck.
    Let's switch this to 55mph. I would of only been able to do about 528 miles.
    How would that affect pay if I was paid .55 cpm?
    703 miles = $386.65
    528 miles = $290.40
    That's $96.25 loss in pay foe exactly the same amount of work.

    Something to think about.
  7. ProfessionalNoticer

    ProfessionalNoticer Road Train Member

    Apr 25, 2021
    It's ridiculous. Govern the truck at 65 and they'll still speed through any zone lower. 45 mph? Hammer down to 65. 55 mpg? Hammer down to 65. Work zone? Hammer down to 65. School zone? Hammer down to 65.

    I will not be complying with this BS if it passes.
  8. Bean Jr.

    Bean Jr. Road Train Member

    Mar 30, 2014
    One of the big pushers of this is some mayor who lost his some to a "speeding" truck. It doesn't seem to matter to him that speed limiters wouldn't have helped because it was a 45 mph work zone.
  9. Magoo1968

    Magoo1968 Heavy Load Member

    Mar 18, 2021
    St Malo mb
    Enforcement of current speed limits would do more good than a speed limiter with the added benefit of removing speeders from driver pool when insurance won’t cover them.
  10. TheLoadOut

    TheLoadOut Road Train Member

    Nov 6, 2019
    Only 12,000 comments since May 4th is not enough. We need to step it up. @scott180 makes a great point for the company drivers out there who might feel they don't really have a say in any of this. Your income will suffer as a result.
  11. TheLoadOut

    TheLoadOut Road Train Member

    Nov 6, 2019
    That would mean "Highway Patrol" would actually have to get out there and perform "highway patrol". I've driven hours, and even whole shifts without seeing any "highway patrol".
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