Speedometer moves when shifting to high-range at idle?? (VIDEO)

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  1. smctransferllc

    smctransferllc Medium Load Member

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    I have a 2000 FLD120, N14 Celect Plus, Eaton Super 10 transmission. It has been parked for several months. After starting it yesterday and doing my checks to see that everything is normal, I noticed the range cylinder sounding a little louder, and can actually feel it moving when I push the stick over.

    Also at idle, the speedometer moves when pushing the stick over to high range and back.

    Several years ago, I cleaned the range piston area and replaced all of the o-rings. My speculation is a worn or dry o-ring on the piston, and I think that I need to rebuild it again. I have purchased the kit to do that, just waiting for it to arrive. I wanted to get some advice and make sure that's correct. Here is a video showing the issue, to get a better idea of what's happening. Thanks for the help!

     
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  3. RocketyMan

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    Strange. I would need to know which ICU that is...maybe the ICU2. What's last 6 of vin?

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  4. Big Road Skateboard

    Big Road Skateboard Road Train Member

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    Check your yoke nut. Probably loose
     
  5. smctransferllc

    smctransferllc Medium Load Member

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    Last 6 of the VIN is F21071. Yoke nut was also checked and everything is tight.
     
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  6. RocketyMan

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    Alright got it.

    Here is your Tachometer. On the back of it, there are "dip-switches" for calibrating the tach. DONT MESS WITH THESE--but do note their position.

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    This is the schematic of the "connector" portion of the gauge:
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    Here is the signal CIRC 162 wiring as the Tachometer output:
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    This is some of the T/S that is worthwhile to check. I wonder if you have a bad ground to the tach, or one of the signal wires from the sensor:
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    The tachometer sensor is in the flywheel housing. On a Cummins N14, it should be on the bottom--about the 5-oclock position.
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    Report back what you find out!
     
  7. MAMservices

    MAMservices Medium Load Member

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    I thought OP said "speedometer".
     
  8. RocketyMan

    RocketyMan Medium Load Member

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    Yup yup! I don't know WHY I was thinking tachometer.
     
  9. RocketyMan

    RocketyMan Medium Load Member

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    *SPEEDOMETER*
    Wiring for the speedometer (similar to tach):
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    The VSS pigtail does split off into two as per the build of your truck, notice the CIRC 117 and 118 that goes to the speedometer:
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    The sensor and harness split is down at the tail-shaft of transmission. The split is because the ECM wants to know the VSS for purposes of cruise control:
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    I suspect the sensor is bad, and any "shifting" is causing the sensor to interpret erratic speed. Get a new one and try it out.
    VSS P/N: ETN A7045
     

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  10. Ridgeline

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    Wonder if it is the harness and not the sensor, I had a WS that did some wonky things and it turned out to be the harness on the trans had an open ground that any movement would cause it to connect back up.
     
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  11. RocketyMan

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    Very well can be the harness, too! Good point.
     
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