split weights

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  1. littlemomma

    littlemomma Bobtail Member

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    Hey, I am not a truck driver, but my job does require me to weigh trucks in before certain pick ups. Sometimes we get trucks that are too long to fit on our scales, so we have to do a split weight. I'm still new at weighing trucks, so how do I know how to tell a driver which axles to weight each time? Thanks in advance for any comments.
     
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  3. Richter

    Richter Road Train Member

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    Does your scale have multiple weight pads or just one big pad? Do you need axle weights or just a gross weight. If just gross, tell the driver to just put the steers/drives int he middle of the scale. The have him pull up and weigh just the trailer with steers/ drives off scale. Add the 2 numbers and you have your gross weight. If you need axle weight and just have one big scale its a little more coplex. Best it just weight the steers first. Then weigh steers and drives (have driver pulll up) Now take the number you have for steers/drives and subtract what you had for steers. This will give you drives. Weight trailer by itself and you have all axle weghts. Still best to try and get a gross since weighting on the edge fo the scale isnt as accurate.
     
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  4. Balakov100

    Balakov100 Road Train Member

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    Usually
    Steer, Drives, Trailers.
     
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  5. littlemomma

    littlemomma Bobtail Member

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    Richter, we only have the one big pad. And we only need the gross weight or total tare weight. So its not as complicated, but still when you're not used to weighing trucks and the drivers act like they don't have a clue, how the heck am I? So, I thought if I learn I won't sound so dumb. :) So I just tell them steers/drives and they'll know??? And then trailer weight. That sounds pretty easy. Thanks for answering my question.
     
  6. Richter

    Richter Road Train Member

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    In most cases at shippers i pick up at, the shipper provides incoming weight and outgoing weight. This gives the driver weight of his load and his total weight leaving. If he wants axle weights, he should know what position he needs to be in and ask you for the numbers. He should do the math himself. I do the method described above all the time, but the shippers dont generally offer that info. I normally need to put my truck in position and request it.
     
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  7. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    ________________
    __/7 l
    l___l_ l________________l
    O (OO ------------ OO)


    O ---------> steer axle

    (OO -----> drive axles

    OO) -----> trailer axles (AKA "tandems")



    Or the trailer axles may look like this:


    __/7
    l___l_l________________
    O (OO ----------- O O)


    O O) ------> spread axle or "trailers" whatever you want to call it they will know


    :biggrin_25525:
     
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  8. special-k

    special-k Road Train Member

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    Just keep it simple. Split weighing usually means weighing the tractor and then pulling forward until the trailer tandem are on the scale. Experienced drivers might ask for the individual weights so they don't have to pay at a CAT scale.
     
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  9. windsmith

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    Weigh the steer tires first, then the drive tires, then the trailer tires. Add them all together to get the total weight. Make sure the driver sets the brakes on ONLY the wheels that are not on the scale, and takes his foot off the service brake. Otherwise he may bind the scale and you'll get an inaccurate weight. Add all three weights together for the total weight. If your scale will fit the entire tractor but not the trailer, then weigh the tractor by itself (set only the trailer brakes, and release the service brake pedal), then weigh only the trailer tandems (set the tractor brake and release the service brake pedal), then add the two together.
     
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  10. littlemomma

    littlemomma Bobtail Member

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    We have a readout at my desk that gives me their weights PLUS a readout at the scale that lets them know their weights. But what I am referring to is when the truck is too big to fit on our weight pad, we have to do a split tare weight. I was trying to learn which axles to tell the drivers to put on the scale at a time to get their TOTAL tare weights at the beginning and then the TOTAL gross weight at the end when they are loaded. Some drivers act like they don't have a clue how to split weights, so how the heck did I??????? :) I'm trying to learn so they don't think I'm just some dumb chick!!!! ;) I want to KNOW and not just guess how to tell them. I want the weights to be accurate for both our sakes. I don't want the driver to get to a CAT scale and weigh too much and have to turn around and shift his load. THAT HAS HAPPENED here. But not at our fault. We had a new driver and he didn't know how to slide his rear axles and stuff. Thanks for your reply.
     
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  11. littlemomma

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    I LOVE how you "drew" the truck out and everything. Very helpful AND entertaining at the same time!!! :biggrin_25525:
     
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