I just read that New Jersey now has no idling at any time, even for sleeping. Apparently, they plan on enforcing this new law.
As far as idling is concerned, when I first started driving we didn't have air conditioners in most cars and any trucks, that I can recall. We didn't need heaters in some trucks because the heat from the engine kept the cab warm. Back then the truck were rarely turned off. But, fuel was about $0.17-0.25/gallon.
Some drivers feel entitled to idle regardless of the weather. A truck burns about a gallon of fuel an hour. At today's fuel rates, that is about $40.00 for a driver to take his 10 hour break. That is a lot of money. You could rent a motel room for that at many places. Installing an APU is expensive. They run about $8,000 per truck. If you are a company driver then you need to follow the company rules or find another job. When you buy the fuel then you can decide whether to idle or not. Companies need to save what they can. Most carriers will allow drivers to idle if the temperature is extreme. As others have mentioned, many drivers will idle no matter what the temperature.
Spoiled rotten company owner make me wanna puke.
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PLZ PLZ PLZ post this companys name!, 8 pages of rants and still we dont know who this person "Supposedly" drives for.
Starting to sound very questionable as to if this is really true,seems like they would have dropped the name of this company to warn us fellow drivers,,but no its about "We Need to get someone else to tell a owner what to do"
Its not about if its right and or wrong,,,if you feel your being done WRONG,well why dont you try the following;
1.Call the better business Bureau in your town
2.Call your state labor board
3.Call OSHA (like you said)
4.hell call your congressman(they aint doing much)
But to ask drivers, all of us who do the same job and deal with the same problem and to totally argue each and everyone of them when they all say THE EXACT SAME THING,,,well all i can say is we tried to help you,but your bound and determined to argue.
My grandfather had a saying about this,,,,"See that woman there,she is so determined to be right,that if she had to, she would argue with a Fence Post if she had too to get her point across"
My husband is actively seeking other employment now. He just obtained his hazmat trying to get out. The 3x past illegal makes for a good paycheck, that's why guys stay. Great pay, horrid conditions. Yeah, the company sucks. Equipment is not maintained decently either.They buy brand new trucks for tax purposes, but won't maintain anything. It really does suck, but this isn't a metro area...good jobs aren't easy to come by. We are kinda in the middle of nowhere.
I"m a transplant. I came here when I got married, and have been treated well. I had an awesome job when I 1st got here, circumstances...unexpected pregnancy at 37, and my awesome company wouldn't allow ANY riders. Yup, there's your example of respecting thier rules. I would still recommend that company to EVERYONE. They are the best, but no exceptions to the rule...told 'em Luv ya, but I gotta go.
Like I said, things have gone downhill fast the last 7 years. Used to be company partys, bonuses, jackets, advances, employee meetings to discuss things. None of that exists anymore. I'm sorry if I'm offending the whole board here...but we were treated well, although expected to run "hard" and such, it was alright. Now it's just all about the owners luxury life, and if we have a problem...get bent. That is where I'm comin' from...can any of you harsh folks understand why I feel bitter? I'm sorry that some of you feel that I should just get over it...but this is the final straw with my patience with this company. I will stay. My job is good. My husband is going to have to go, and I just wish there was some way to help these other guys, kinda stuck in a bad situation.
Go ahead, flame me some more, I came her to vent, maybe light a fire with someone that could help...I just don't feel drivers should have to sit in a hot truck..I no you can idle anyway...risk your job, disrespect your company, but this is not right.
Sorry if the poster before doesn't believe me...why would I still be here defending this if I were lying? If I didn't want to keep MY job, I'd lay out names and numbers. I'm not lying.blueeyes40 Thanks this.
DOT not to see how illegal these guys are running. I am only arguing with the folks that are basically saying " owners make the rules. deal with it or leave." That dont make it right..and it seems quite a few agree this policy is wrong.
I didn't just post and run...I will follow up if anyone wants to keep going, and I would gladly give the company name privately if someone actually gave a ####.
I can't feel for ya, all companies have scaled back on the extra crap like parties, jackets, trinkets, and the like. It's called cost avoidance, if companies dont adapt to a changing market they go away. There is too much competition to be a static player, the dynamic company lasts. In a bad market that means tightening the budget. I'm willing to be the owners had all these same toys 7 years ago, that's their deal. They want to spend their money on toys then so be it. How many drivers do the same thing? for that matter how many homeless people spend their money on drugs and alcohol, you can't make choices for people and putting your judgement of them on the internet isn't going to change anything.
Hope the hubby's job search goes well. Oh and with CSA he might want to look for a company that only expects him to run legal. Not worth the risk any more.dazedtrucker Thanks this.
Hope the hubby's job search goes well. Oh and with CSA he might want to look for a company that only expects him to run legal. Not worth the risk any more.[/QUOTE]
I totally agree. And thank you for the well wishes
It's hard after runnin' like that for 10 years...big time paycut hurts.
I'm bustin' butt tryin' to get my Ebay consignment business growing, so I can make up the diff for him. I work full time for this company, take care of 5 kids, my household, and run my "home business" on the side. Sounds so simple in 1 little sentence. (I'm only up n #####in this week cause I had surgery, and been out 4 a few days)
I liked runnin' OTR, but I can't right now. 3 year old, goes with me on the truck90% of the time. We just bought a home before this BS started.
I cannot wait for the day we can just get out of this area altogether. It's warped. I came from Denver. This is the freakin twilite zone
This was the air coming out of the vent with the A/C on full.
I finally had to shut off the A/C and run with the heater on full.
Ma'am, it has nothing to do with gender. These guys talk to the guys on the forum like this.
With that out of the way, I do not agree with "baking" a driver. But when it's a nice 70 degrees out, shut it off! 50? Get an extra blanket. That's all.
141 degres--ouch--its ok if the truck is moving--i really hate ac --i only cycle it to cool it off then like to have all the windows cracked --
but when you are stopped-it can get nasty
i honestely cant imagine what that was like
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