Spy ware in the truck??

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  1. I_HATE_MINIVANS

    I_HATE_MINIVANS Heavy Load Member

    LMFAO!! Yeah, then you WOULD get fired.
     
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  3. I_HATE_MINIVANS

    I_HATE_MINIVANS Heavy Load Member

    Regarding these cameras, how are you protected? It's good to know that the union contract at least has a provision regarding those cameras, but your privacy is still being invaded because they can spy on your phone conversations. What if you're talking to another driver and you happen to mention that one of the dispatchers at your home terminal is a scrawny little condescending weasel and you'd like to kick his ### for something he did or said, and that guy happens to be spying on your dash cam at the time. So you can't be "fired or disciplined" but he can still make your life a living hell. Every company has a few loads nobody wants, slip-seat operations have a few trucks nobody wants to drive, etc.

    I find it particularly disturbing that the Teamsters would set a precedent by allowing these cameras in the trucks too. Without mentioning the provisions in the contract, salesmen for the DriveCam type systems will say to non-union fleets "The Teamsters union allows companies to use them, they don't think it's an invasion of their privacy". This encourages more companies to put these things in the trucks.

    Ok let's say there's one of these terrible companies who wins the "Bottom Feeder, Inc" award. They have a camera and microphone in the cab and they're spying on some guy. He's talking on the phone, mentions to his wife that he THINKS he's got sleep apnea. He says he's got all the symptoms but of course, hasn't gotten a diagnosis yet for this TREATABLE condition, and therefore isn't yet protected by the Americans with Disabilities Act. He gets #### canned the next day, for no reason.

    Or what if a female driver is talking to her husband on the phone and says she's late for her period and thinks she's pregnant? The company looks at this and thinks "maternity leave" and finds something to fire her for BEFORE she has a chance to take a pregnancy test.
     
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  4. THBatMan8

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    My incident was with a passenger when I was driving a city bus. The passenger was in a wheel-chair, so I took the time to secure the passenger with posy belts and tie downs. While I was driving, a 4 wheeler cut me off and made a abrubt right turn, so I was hard on my brakes. While I was on the brake, the passenger un-buckled the posy belt and launched herself out of the chair. She took it to court, claiming I didn't properly secure her; but the drive cam said otherwise.

    The funny thing is that when you walked into my bus there was a overhead sign that said "Smile, you're on camera". :biggrin_25512:
     
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    THBatMan8 Road Train Member

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    LOL

    That reminds me of a video clip my ex-company showed during orientation. Two guys were driving a bus to New Orleans as part of the hurricane relief effort and they were talking about the drive cam. The driver manually activated the drive cam while the guy riding proceeded to moon the camera. :biggrin_2559:
     
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  6. ChuckK70

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    And you are also helping management in the further development and deployment of obnoxiously intrusive spying devices on your working brothers. I can't believe that fellow Teamsters would willingly go along with this crap. You should be fighting it tooth and nail.

    Wow.
     
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    Wow brings back memories like in the movie Enemy of the State
     
  8. THBatMan8

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    If they drive like a idiot with a death wish then they don't need to be on the road. It's that simple. If it takes making drive cams mandatory on all CMV's then so be it. I have no problem driving with a drive cam because I never do anything that would jeopardize my safety and the safety of others sharing the road.
     
  9. Rollover the Original

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    If the cams are videoing outside of the truck I have no problem with them. They can and have saved companies many dollars by stopping lawsuits before they can get filed! OR in court showing who was at fault, which most of us know is about 80% the cars fault!

    If it'll save me money or show the police what happened in an accident or as a witness to someone being crazy go for it BUT aim one at me while driving forget it! If it records sound inside the cab forget it. BUT if I were to find any mics or lenses in the sleeper or cab that has windshield curtains you can bank on me never having to work another day in my life as I'll sue someone as if they were Donalds shadow

    They aren't a bad thing but if the driver of the truck is the moron then good get him off the road with me, my family and the rest of you!

    Does anyone remember when they caught the idiot 6 wheeler firebug about 10 years ago who was driving all over CA and flipping cigarettes out just after lighting them starting forest fires? His company got suspicious because every delivery he made a fire started in that area so they went to CHP and they put the camera in the passenger door and caught his silly arse that way!

    If it's to get proof of a moron behind the wheel then by all means use it! Just keep it on the outside of a truck with a sleeper.
     
  10. THBatMan8

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    The drive cam I had recorded in front and inside the vehicle. But before you start to flame a drive cam, they don't work like most people think they do. Drive cams do constantly record 24/7, but the company cannot review a video from the cam unless a event triggers the cam to send a clip to HQ.

    Lets say for example you hit the brakes harder than usual, and the braking activates the camera. The camera will go back 10 seconds before the event, and forward 10 seconds after the event, and send that 20 second clip to HQ. That way the company can not only see what was happening in front of you, but they can also see how alert you were to the conditions.

    You can also manually activate the camera as well.

    I don't know why CMV drivers would have a issue with this. If you're a safe driver, that camera will become your best friend.
     
  11. I_HATE_MINIVANS

    I_HATE_MINIVANS Heavy Load Member

    That's not the POINT. The POINT is our RIGHT to PRIVACY.

    It's not about being a safe driver. All this "oh, I'm a safe driver so I don't have anything to worry about" is RIDICULOUS and it's an EXTREMELY DANGEROUS way to look at any issue regarding infringement on the rights of the individual, regardless of whether the tyrant is the federal government or private corporation such as a trucking company.

    Do you believe in any of the other basic inalienable human rights protected by the United States Constitution? To support one right while not caring about, or even opposing other rights is a prime example of hypocrisy.

    You're not a criminal, are you? (I'm assuming you'll say no) Ok, so if you're not a criminal, would you be totally cool with having a cop follow you around 24/7, watching you just to make sure you don't break any laws?
     
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