Stacking the deck in your favor.

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by TripleSix, Sep 26, 2017.

  1. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    Rookies and wannabes, read this thread
    Worst mistake of my life....

    Some tool didnt do his homework, and thought that he could get in a truck and suddenly make money hand over fist. From the start, he had unrealistic expectations. He says that he did research. Did he do research? Well, let's see...4 months experience and leasing a truck. Now, I am not going to go into whether or not people should go into leasing, because I have known some to be successful. But the people that are successful at leasing know the system, they know the ropes, the know the freight lanes, they know the customers, they know the freight. The same principles go with buying a truck and being an owner operator and looking on load boards and dealing with brokers. If you dont know the business like the back of your hand, odds are you will be broke before you learn.

    Contrary to what you may have read on a billboard, you will not just get a CDL and money will start rolling in, UNDERSTAND? Get that thought out of your head. That's like someone going to a Mac Tools truck and buying $20000 worth of tools and expect to make money being a diesel mechanic.

    But, how hard can it be? It's just driving, right? Sure, and anyone can climb underneath a truck and get greasy and dirty.

    It's funny to see people who are in driving school talk about all the places where they wont go and what they wont do. "Oh, I read this on TTR...I wont go northeast." If you can make$1500/week running the northeast vs $900 for avoiding it, you, brand new rookie wouldnt take the job. "Nope. Not worth it to me. I would take the $900."

    $78000 vs $46800. Same amount of time. Sorry, I'm here for the money.

    "When should I lease/buy a truck?"

    When you know the business like the back of your hand. As you guys know, most people fail horribly at leasing. If you have to be a trainer to pay the bills, you dont know the business. Call the recruiters at your company and ask them what the average driver makes there. If you are not making a minimum 1.5x average, you dont know the business well enough to be leasing or owner op. Successful lease operators and successful owner operators are NEVER, NNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRR
    average. Theyre self motivated hard chargers. They know their craft.

    "Okay Six, I am making 1.5-2x average wage and I want to take that next step. What do I do now?"

    Get a mentor. He/she should be able to help you with the business end of things. He/she should be able to help you spec out the right truck. Remember, the goal in all of this isnt to just get a job, the goal is to be good at what you do.

    Luck in battle.
     
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  3. Gearjammin' Penguin

    Gearjammin' Penguin "Ride Fast-Truck Safe"

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    This post alone should be pinned on several forums. :biggrin_25514:
     
  4. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    The other guy doesnt have a mirror so he cant see what the problem is. I hope that others chime in with their experiences and words of wisdom.
     
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    Always amazed me the people that buy trucks that have no knowledge or mechanical skills and don't even carry tools with em lol.
     
  6. rbrtwbstr

    rbrtwbstr Road Train Member

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    I have to wonder if he was trolling...
     
  7. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    I actually knew a driver like that. Hotheaded. Always running off at the mouth to shippers and receivers for the slightest issues. The majority of the contracts we had told the company that they didnt want him back on their properties ever. So, then he started complaining about how long he sat while waiting for the next load. He went to the office and dropped a bunch of F Bombs and they terminated his contract.
     
  8. Fold_Moiler

    Fold_Moiler Road Train Member

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    I look back at school and laugh. I wonder where half the people are now. I still talk to one every other day and we both are doing good.

    His older brother has owned a truck for years and is on his third one so he tells us what companies to avoid and which to go to. I think he's convinced both us to move to fuel. I just applied at a place to do fuel that wants to give me a job as long as they can insure me. They require two years driving and I only have one but it's all tanker so he said it's better than two years bumping docks as long as insurance will work with me.

    I'm sure half the people in school quit by now. Lots were lazy and could barely go to class 40 hours a week let alone drive 12 hours a day.
     
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  9. rbrtwbstr

    rbrtwbstr Road Train Member

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    You know, this is a great thread. It just reminds me why I'm still a company puke after 16 years. With no current plans of owning a truck. I'm a firm believer that before you make such a commitment, you better know exactly what you're in for. I could go buy a truck tomorrow if I wanted. I could find work for that truck tomorrow if I wanted. And I'd likely be profitable doing it. But there's too many things about this business that I still don't know well enough. How could I expect to provide A+ service, if I don't know everything about the business? The fact is you can't. Surely I'd survive, and probably do well at it. But if I'm making an investment of any sort, I want maximum returns, and I want to be the best at what I do.

    So, for me, being a company puke is where I'm at, and where I will remain for the foreseeable future. And thats ok by me. I'll just be the best in what I do currently.
     
  10. Kyle G.

    Kyle G. Road Train Member

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    @TripleSix you have a way of being brutally honest. I kinda like it. It is, after all, a brutal industry.
     
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  11. superflow

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    Buy a truck?
    Ummm. " no thank you "
    Got better things to do with my time ; like living a normal life
     
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