Stacking the deck in your favor.

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by TripleSix, Sep 26, 2017.

  1. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    I'm not on much anymore, and most of the time way back when, I hung out in Hijack or Flo's. ( She's now my better half. )
    But I have a few lengthy posts on the dynamics of trucks and trailers, and the reasons why certain tactics are effective.
     
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  3. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    For a heavy hauler, it's not necessarily the money...it's the truck, it's the trailer, it's the freight, it's the challenge. What's interesting is the guys on top generally know each other.or know of each other. Its funny... when doing your trip plan, you look for a full service restaurant with the biggest parking lot to stop at. You pull into the parking lot and go to the very back and you look for some big load taking up 2 spots and park next to him so you two only take up 3 spots instead of 4. Of course, there comes a time when your load becomes so big that you need 4 spots total. In many places, superloads cant move on weekends. So, you meet these guys that are stuck in a truck stop all weekend. A decade ago, we would all sit in the back of a truck stop, break out the lounge chairs and grill food and drink beer all weekend. Nowadays tho, there are just too many sidewalk sissies in this industry to do that. So I will usually find one of my pilot cars in the area and have the pilot car load us up and take us to a nice bar with good food and hot waitresses. Or a taxi works too.

    The Dreaded Lunch Counter

    You know how, when you go to the lunch counter and you hear the guy that's done everything, knows everything, 40 year driver with 5 million safe miles, 55 years old, yet fought in Nam under Johnson? Either laugh at him or ignore him. They always have 2 things in common 1. Ex navy seal 2. Ex Heavyhauler.

    I've always wondered why do they feel the need to lie. The thing is, when they lie, they're re telling stories that they've heard before. For example, 30 years ago, I had someone tell me not to ever blow my horn at a moose. He then went on to tell me about a friend of his with a black Pete that blew his horn at a moose and the moose demolished the truck. Well, last year, I had a guy in his early 30s tell me never to blow my horn at a moose. Why not? Because he has a friend that had a black Pete that blew his horn at a moose and the moose demolished the truck. I told him that I saw a moose and I blew my horn at the moose and the moose ran away. The guy didn't believe me until I told him that I do not drive a Pete.


    ANYWAY, you usually see the same types of guys in the restaurants. You have GI Joe telling tales of espionage with his secret decoder ring. You have the FearMongerer, telling tales of moose with hard ons for peterbilts, or those 'old man at the weigh station stories.' You have the moron that's afraid of his wife, talking on the phone from the crapper to the buffet (he didn't wash his hands, so don't eat from the buffet). And then you have the gear heads. One the conversation goes to wrenching, the losers in the room will get quiet. The guys you want to listen to can turn a wrench. You don't have to be a mechanical whiz to be an owner op, but if you don't know anything, every time you take a truck to a shop, you're handing over a blank check.

    I can turn a wrench. I've been building my trucks, cars, now bikes for a long time. However, time is most important. I have a series of shops I use on the road. How will you know which shops you can trust? Remember those gearheads in the restaurant? They will tell you.
    I always tell new owner ops to find a shop near the house. I have one that gives me good cash prices and I give him cash. When I go home, I have other things to do, and they're much faster than me. And it gives me a secure place to park the truck. Win win.
     
  4. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    @G13Tomcat, this guy is a walking legend.
     
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  5. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    I can personally speak to this, not as a buyer but as an employee of a company who's trucks others may buy.

    Whomever winds up with my truck when they decide to take it from me WILL be getting a good one. I'm on my second fifth wheel. It has about 50k miles on it. And, I'm only on my second clutch, and for a peddle hand's truck with 730k miles on it that's not bad at all.

    Now, for some of the alleged "drivers" I'm sorry to say I work with, that's a bit of a different story, and unfortunately the "different" story is the norm instead of the exception. The concept of taking a little personal pride in one's work has become passe, antiquated, what-have-you, and the industry as a whole is worse off for it.
     
  6. cnsper

    cnsper Road Train Member

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    What six says about wrenching is true. I had never done brakes, wheel seals, s-cams or slack adjusters. Until about three weeks ago. Brakes all around, 4 s-cams, slack adjusters all around and 4 wheel seals.

    You do have to invest in tools and the size is what intimidates most people. As for the brakes, they are easier than a car.
     
  7. G13Tomcat

    G13Tomcat Road Train Member

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    Haven't seen you in a month of Sundays, man. . . I'll sure check it out... just woke up from the nap (vampire I have to be....) Thanks!! Glad to see ya show back up.. I am always looking to learn, and therefore live. Thanks, man.
     
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    G13Tomcat Road Train Member

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    I'm waiting!!! Subscribed...
     
  9. longbedGTs

    longbedGTs Heavy Load Member

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    Yeah, 4 months is a little too soon to throw all your eggs into one basket. Attitude comes into play...and something tells me that the OP of that other thread could lighten up a bit and stop expecting the world in 4 months time. Hell, I've been a company man for all 10 years of my career...and am just now considering the idea of buying a truck. Still have got a lot to learn, but I just bought a house and funds are low, so by my estimation, we will have flying trucks by the time I get ready to buy.
     
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  10. G13Tomcat

    G13Tomcat Road Train Member

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    ps: And you aren't? ;) (What happened to Chewy, btw??)
     
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    No one takes care of a truck like the man who depends on it to provide for his family. Even the best of the best technician will let something he ain't sure about ride cause hell it's just a come back to him.

    That said I had a friend bout 15 years ago bought a real nice Pete and leased it on some where. When he came home he was in too big a hurry to go to the lake and water ski with the new boat that the truck was paying for. Or ride the big Harley that the truck was paying for. Or admire the new boobs his wife had that the truck was paying for. Instead of taking care of the truck. He looked up one day and it was wore out all over more than anywhere else. Then suddenly the scooter was gone, the boat was gone and his brand new boobs were being enjoyed by his replacement.

    To this day he says the company he was leased to screwed him cause they wouldn't fix the truck and hold it out of his settlements.

    Notice I said had a friend. I don't make a habit of being guilty by association
     
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