Okay, in a nutshell, this is what I am doing.
Me and my brother are starting our own LLC for the trucking business. We will currently only have one truck under our LLC when it is completely setup and finished. As of right now, the LLC is NOT formed.
What I HAVE done, is opened a joint bank account for both of us, that we will use as our "business" account to keep personal and business finances separated, until I can later create a true business account under the name of our LLC.
Anyway, with that covered, my question is this. When our company pays us to our joint account, we will be taking 30% of the profit, EACH. We have our joint account through Bank of America, as well as our personal accounts. We can transfer funds to our personal accounts free of charge.
So say we transferred our portion of the profits to ourselves, every Friday, is that enough of a record for bookkeeping purposes? Are actually writing checks a necessity? It would almost be like a direct deposit this way. And at the end of every statement cycle, we would clearly see the transfers to each of our personal accounts.
All expenses will go through this account. From our "payroll," to fuel, to maintenance, to whatever else comes up.
So, is this the way to do it? Can paying ourselves through simple transfers to our personal account work for the IRS?
Starting an LLC and a Joint Bank account question
Discussion in 'Trucker Taxes and Truck Financing' started by TMFGO45, Oct 6, 2010.
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You are assuming you will have a profit???
Handle just like you worked for a company that offers direct deposit. Whatever accounting software you are using should be able to print a pay stub for your records. My advice is to have a record of it on your business computer as well as a paper copy for you personally. -
I do assume we will have a profit. I see no reason to think otherwise, unless you are referring to all the deductions and whatnot.
The company I will be leased to will Direct Deposit into the joint account every Friday. From that point, 40% remains, 30% goes to each of us. At that point, we do the transfer, which creates a record on the bank statement every time it is done. Which I can then print out every month.
You are saying I need to use a simple accounting program, and when I show the transfers on it, have it print out a "stub" for our records, to keep track of what we normally see on check stubs anyway?
And that is good enough for the IRS and tax purposes? I will be keeping all receipts of course. I just want to be sure that either the clear pay transfers to out personal accounts on the bank statements is enough, or if we truly have to write checks...to...ourselves? -
Set up your LLC and get that going. In Iowa, you can do that via fax! That way this joint account stuff won't muddy any waters.
Regarding the transfer, you can probably do it now as there's not a business, but how can you pay yourselves without any income yet?
When the LLC is setup, you'll want to write checks and keep a VERY DEFINED LINE between you guys and the business. Wouldn't hurt to consult a CPA. -
As long as you can clearly document your transactions, it should work for the IRS. I agree to not just depend on the bank records, though. It'll be best to keep your own copies, too.
You might want to look at [post=1534166]this post, for more about LLC's[/post], too.lowjo Thanks this. -
I have an LLC and a business bank account as well. I use QuickBooks for accounting and write checks or do the credit card entries for all transactions so I have a record of what was paid. If you use your bank accounts as you have said, you can show the transactions with bank statements but you can't show what they were for.
Let's assume you only take your 30% each pay period and that it is your "payroll". What happens if you have to reimburse yourself for a major expense you covered. Without having a transaction accounting process in place, you really don't have a way to differentiate the payroll from the expense reimbursement and both are taxed differently. If you have to demonstrate it to the IRS someday, you'll be pressed to show why it was an expense reimbursement versus an additional owner's draw.
Chances are, you'll never have to show an audit trail so you're system should work fine. Just keep in mind if you are going to do transfers for things other than payroll. -
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Once you get used to it, it's not that hard. It doesn't mean you can't carry company money and your own in the same pocket. You just have to keep track of what's what, either on paper or computer.
You can even pay for company expenses with your personal money, either from your pocket, bank account, or bank card, as long as you get reimbursed. When the company pays for your personal expenses, though, that's when you've crossed the line. Instead, just take an advance and pay them personally. It's really that simple.Hardhead Thanks this.
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