Starting up and new HOS

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Skunk_Truck_2590, Jun 25, 2013.

  1. Skunk_Truck_2590

    Skunk_Truck_2590 Road Train Member

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    What do you guys think about the new HOS? OK yea, stupid question because I think they SUCK! But that is coming from a soon to be ex company driver. I made another post a few weeks ago asking about a set of matching fleet trucks and I think I have made up my mind but I'm reconsidering. With the new HOS, how is any one supposed to make any kind of half ### decent money? As a company owner, your in business to make money but if the new HOS turns into a pit fall what are we to do? If your trucks can't roll, you can't make money, if you can't make money, you pay your bill or drivers and if you can't pay your drivers, you can't retain them andnyou have a yard full of empty trucks and jobs no one wants. I'm at at a fork in the road wondering WTH I should do before I make a bad investment and buy 3 trucks and trailers. Most commonly loads deliever in the 1-5am time range that they say you have to take two breaks, so obviously flatbed is the way to go because most are day time deliveries. But the extended breaks and lessened drive time (because we all know shippers and receivers will never give a rats ###) will play againest each other and I won't even get started on poor parking conditions. So please give me your opinions and insight on wheather or not you would still buy trucks or not to start a company and if it would be worth it.
     
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  3. 379exhd

    379exhd Road Train Member

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    Driver you need to think outside the box. You can still run off the recap and eliminate your restart completely there is nolaw that states you have to restart your clock. Run off the recap and you get rid of the rest provisions only problem you then have is your 30 minute break. Run 11 hour days 6 days 4 hours the 7th day, take 24 off and you pick up 11 at midnight. Were all getting creative here I picture a lot of guys going to running 2 books.
     
  4. bigdogpile

    bigdogpile Road Train Member

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    Maybe you could charge the shipper double the going rate ?
     
  5. shovel98

    shovel98 Light Load Member

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    Yeah running two logs only work till you get eobr. And just wait they will say hey we can use GPS data in eobr to do your ifta for u too it will make it so much easier for you. Then while they are at it electronic transfer of all log and mileage data downloaded into gov computer every month so we don't have to hassle with storing them pesky documents. And easier enforcement for safety. Sounds scary too me but bet they will try.
     
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  6. bigdogpile

    bigdogpile Road Train Member

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    no no no they said EOBR are for safety reasons only....
     
  7. Skunk_Truck_2590

    Skunk_Truck_2590 Road Train Member

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    OK I found something that has shed some light and makes it understandable. Now how to get shippers/receivers/brokers to comply on load times. My trucks will be equipped with elogs per my investor.
     
  8. BigBadBill

    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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    Why buy trucks and not go O/O? The best company driver is still a PITA. And if done right your drivers should be able to make money and never have to worry about a restart and just run of the recap.

    BTW, I hope this is sarcasm.
     
  9. Wolfyinc

    Wolfyinc Road Train Member

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    I hardly ever deliver between 1-5am, most of mine are just a little later or during the night except the one I just dropped at 3am which was a multi stop for walmart.

    Like mentioned above run off the recap, thats what I have been doing this past 2 weeks trying to get used to managing my time better. The 30 minute break isnt going to stop you from making money, I hardly ever use my full 14's so instead of taking a couple breaks I will just be combining them. I dont like the new law since I prefer to stop 2 times for 15 minutes a piece to get a drink, restroom etc.

    I also utilize rest areas and pullouts instead of wasting time at the truck stops if I dont need to, takes maybe a minute to get off the road into a rest area while a truck stop takes a couple minutes to hopefully get to it then find a parking spot.....bla bla and then the trip back to the highway, rest areas are my biggest tip on managing time.
     
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  10. buzzarddriver

    buzzarddriver Road Train Member

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    At some point in time, any shipper that deals in interstate commerce will have to register the load to a government database so it can be tracked. It will have a registration number and any law enforcement officer can look it up on a computer.
    The shipper will enter the time you loaded, or picked up the trailer. All activities enroute, such as fueling, truck repairs, changes in drivers will have to be entered into the database, referencing the load registration.
    Then upon delivery or dropping the trailer, the receiver will close out the load registration.
    That way Jill Claybrook will be able to save the world from evil cowboy truck drivers.
     
  11. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    The way to get them to comply is to have detention time guaranteed in writing . If they don't agree don't deal with them . When possible loading and unloading should be by appointment .
     
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