Stay away from FIRST EXPRESS!!!

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  1. chigger

    chigger Bobtail Member

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    When I first spoke with a recruiter at First Express in Nashville, TN (affiliated with Averitt Express) I was offered .36/mi plus .02/mi for monthly safety bonus and another .01/mi for fuel savings bonus. (should be easy since all trucks have apu's) Got to orientation and was presented with TONS of contracts to sign including that if you don't give them a 2 week written notice when you want to quit that they change your payscale from cents per mile to minimum wage for your LOGGED hours. Also, they even reveal that the drug test costs $50, but they are charging you $150 for it and after SIX MONTHS they will refund it back to you. Also, (very important) if you take a dispatch and don't make the appointment time you lose your safety bonus for that month. Also stressed that LEGAL LOGGED HOURS are necessary to retain bonus as well as not getting shut down for HOS violation.

    My first dispatches were an hour from Nashville probably to get my feet wet. After I delivered I was given a load going to Houston, Tx and told delivery time would follow when they got it. (a lie and a trick) Great, I was on my way. 2 hrs later I got the delivery time...10am in Houston. It was now 5pm and my dispatcher had gone home. Houston is 850 miles from Nashville, a SOLID 12-13 hour drive and they gave me a 10am appnt after being on duty since 8am. I called the night dispatcher (who knew nothing about it) but said it was set in stone. So I drove until midnight, slept 3 hours AND MADE the appnt time! I thought maybe it was a fluke and shrugged it off. Same thing on the next 2 loads. I spoke to 2 or 3 other drivers who said to get used to it...'fraid NOT! I called the safety guy (Marion) and complained about the illegal hours and having to falsify logs to make these times and got it turned around on me by a rude, ######## little punk. I told him I was sorry for wasting his time by trying to run legally and hung up. Next thing I know, my load was traded to another driver and I was rerouted back to Nashville. I delivered in Nash. and while being unloaded packed up all my things to empty the truck when I got back. I greeted by the owner (Bo) a recruiter (Adam)and the punk (Marion) out in the yard just as I finished moving out my things. Bo wanted me to talk but I said I wouldn't with the punk there to which Bo all of a sudden got real irate and hostile and told me to get my ##* off his yard, that no one tells him what to do! I got in my truck and he (on foot) chased me (he thought) in 95 degees to the gate screaming obscenities at me and telling me "You're not so tough." My final words (and gesture) to him before he finally backed off were (as I showed him my 9mm Glock that I had in my lap) was, "Who needs to be tough with someone stupid enough to only bring their EGO to a gun fight?" and drove off. After 3 weeks I was sent a check for $205, $430 short of what I had earned in 3 and a half days.

    Since then, (contrary to the recruiters, go figure) I have spoken to several of their drivers. Every single one is either quitting or looking. This is a really BAD situation for drivers. I think it's a real shame that they have to blackmail you with your paycheck to get 2 weeks notice from you instead of just treating you right. STAY AWAY FROM THIS COMPANY!
     
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  3. AfterShock

    AfterShock Road Train Member

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    :naka:SaY WHAT?!
    "Bo" brought an ego to a gun fight? :biggrin_2551:
    :laughing-guffaw:
    Hmmmmmmmm -------
    Obviously "Bo" ain't the brightest bulb on the billboard. :biggrin_25512:

    But if I were you, I'd be careful who I showed that Glock to. A wiser guy might have you charged with assault with a deadly weapon -- or terrorist threats.

    Sorry to hear about your less than favorable experience, Chigger.
    And thanx for the heads-UP.

    What'cha gonna do now? :smt102

    OH!
    And WELCOME to the forums.
     
  4. doboy

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    does averitt own them? Just wondering a friend of mine is suppose to call averitt on monday. He talked to 1st express and they wanted him to get a sleep test done even though his physical is fine
     
  5. AfterShock

    AfterShock Road Train Member

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    :scratch:
    Hmmmmmmmmmm :dontknow: :biggrin_25525:
     
  6. MGASSEL

    MGASSEL Road Train Member

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    Actually the most that he may have been charged with is felony menancing or they could go after him for only a misi.
    I read this post eariler and had a brain fart could not think of the proper charge.

    The only reason I know this is I use to do bounty hunting a while back and had to get properly trained for it they cover this in the training.
    The only way you should point or show you gun is if your life was in danger. Ie the other person has a gun pointed at you or is reaching for a gun.
     
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  7. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Sounds like "Bo" and this "Marion" were related, as in father-and-son perhaps. To insult one is to incur the wrath of the other, which is the worst thing about working for smaller companies.
     
  8. chigger

    chigger Bobtail Member

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    Thanks for the replies, questions, and advice. What I understand is that both companies own large amounts of each others' stocks and holdings, but neither owns the other. Being affiliated with Averitt lets First to dispatch their drivers (unpaid out of route miles) to Averitt's yards to fuel up since they have cheaper bulk fuel tanks.

    I own a concealed carry permit and didn't point my Glock at him, just set it on the dashboard in plain sight kind of as a "preventative" measure. I don't aim at anyone unless I intend to use it.
     
  9. chigger

    chigger Bobtail Member

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    Averitt doesn't own them or vice-versa. They own major pieces of each others stocks and work in tandem with swapping loads and fueling at each others yards. Tell your friend to expect HEAVY micro-managing from either
    company, both are very paranoid. Also, if he goes to Averitt and they put him on the Cracker Barrel account, he will have to HAND unload THOUSANDS of lbs of boxes at his store delivery...no lumpers and no help in the trailer. (it's not allowed) I worked for a temp agency and did one of those runs in Florida and got heatstroke and very sick from having to hump 14,450lbs of freight in 120 degree trailer. They expected me to deliver to 5 stores on a VERY STRICT timetable...impossible to do in 7hrs.
     
  10. InMyDreams

    InMyDreams Light Load Member

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    Why does it seem like every one of these stories starts with:
    And ends with:
    Usually accompanied by:
    Being a novice/wannabe there's a point that I'm trying to make here. It seems that no matter what, we somehow thing things will be different. For a short time I explored the idea of a CRE Lease, thinking that I would be different somehow. When I ran the numbers, I knew that the only way I would be different from Lease drivers is that I had run the numbers and decided to stay away. The fact that recruiters lie to us doesn't help this situation either.

    Most companies (especially the larger ones) have pay scales listed on their site. If they don't, I'm not interested in applying with them ... because you know you'll most likely be lied to by a recruiter about your starting wage.

    I have discovered that this web site has a wealth of information which sometimes is hidden from plain view - but if you're willing to take the time to explore it - it can be invaluable. There are some veterans here who will tell you (and generally can predict) whether or not you will be happy/successful at a given company - I try to listen to these guys and respect their opinions.

    Just my couple of cents here ... I want a positive experience out of my first company and wish the same on everyone else.

    Good luck in your quest.
     
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  11. superchicken

    superchicken Bobtail Member

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    Also stressed that LEGAL LOGGED HOURS are necessary to retain bonus as well as not getting shut down for HOS violation.

    This will not be an issue because they are now running electronic logs in all there trucks as of today. Not sure how well it will work sitting at customer all day but they are doing the electronic log deal.
     
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