Steer tires blowing going downhill or on a curve?

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  1. Mothertruckingpaul

    Mothertruckingpaul Bobtail Member

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    Hi, I’m a new driver, just finished my last week of training and about to hit the road. Over the course of the training, we went and dropped off loads all over Northern California and Oregon. We ran through different scenarios, and even had a rear tire blow on us. My trainer was good with answering almost all of my questions, but he shrugged his shoulders and told me he’s never been put into this situation and never been trained on what to do in case of a situation like this, so he just hopes he never runs into it (which sounds crazy to me, because I can’t imagine saying anything is impossible as a trucker) but what do you do in the case of a steer tire getting blown out while you are going downhill or around a curve? I understand never hit the brakes, I’ve watched many videos on why, especially when going on a straight highway, but what if you get a flat on a 6% grade? If you don’t hit the brakes, are you going to go too fast for that situation and possibly hit someone else? I know that’s when there’s options such as escape ramps, median barriers, etc, but is there anywhere in America where neither of those will be available and you’re just screwed? I’m assuming there isn’t one correct answer, but what are some of the most common options when put in this scenario? Thanks in advance to anyone who can help.
     
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  3. 201

    201 Road Train Member

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    1st, let me say, steer tire blowouts are extremely rare, in 35 years, I never had one let go, and that includes tube type. A blown steer tire, I've heard, is not an automatic wreck, you have a little warning and the reason no brakes, is even blown, the wheel is still turning, and you can usually stop. One thing for sure, if drowsy, it will wake you up. You''ll be fine.
     
  4. Phoenix Heavy Haul

    Phoenix Heavy Haul Medium Load Member

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    If it happens just death grip the wheel as it’s gonna pull hard to whichever side and get the truck stopped best way you can.
    It’s really not something you can plan for just stay calm and hang on for the ride.
     
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    201 Road Train Member

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    Years ago before power steering, I heard it would yank the steering wheel out of your hands.
     
  6. Last Call

    Last Call Road Train Member

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    I heard of drivers getting a arm broken from that
     
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  7. lester

    lester Midwest's #1 Feed Hauler

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    It's not gradually breaking that's the problem. It's panicking and slamming on the breaks that can cause issues.
    I blew a steer running 80,000lbs and about 70mph. Felt the tire go down, grabbed the steering wheel tight and used the breaks to come to a stop quickly as I could without really hammering the breaks. No problems keeping it on the road. Fender was fubared though
     
  8. seagreg

    seagreg Light Load Member

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    While it may not help in a curve, down hill you should slightly accelerate and pop your yellow valve.

    In both situations the reason you don't have spring brakes on steers is so that you maintain steering while applying them in an emergency.

    Next chance you get on an empty road with lots of room I highly suggest you try popping your yellow valve while moving at about 30mph.

    Knowing how that feels and learning to trust that they work and not violently is important so that you are comfortable using them in an emergency and don't delay doing so when needed.

    Going down hill you should mostly be depending on engine braking, be in the right gear and not depending on your service brakes only anyway.
     
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    seagreg Light Load Member

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    I actually found this old campy video I remember seeing a long time ago.

    It will cover the corner question, and also explain why accelerating is the appropriate immediate response to a tire blow out, even in a curve.

     
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  10. fairshake

    fairshake Road Train Member

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    Ive had a steer go flat almost instantly hitting huge bridge/road transition on straight road wasn't much of a thing, but going around a curve at speed could get seriously ugly. Best thing is to always have a nice set of steers.
     
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  11. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Go down the steep grade slow enough that you are not gaining speed because your gear selection, and engine brake if you have one, are keeping vehicle speed steady. If you don't have an engine brake, or if your engine brake isn't very effective, then you have to go THAT MUCH SLOWER than the posted speed limit or the posted truck at a given weight advisory speed. .
     
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