Stepping Out With My Own Numbers

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Misesian, May 16, 2017.

  1. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    I saw the same thing with December. That first week slacked up so much from the previous pre-Thanksgiving rush that it was a little nerve wracking. But it ratcheted back up to busy, busy, busy the closer we got to Christmas. I have never seen a 1st week of December start out so seemingly slow like that before, that was a first.

    Sounds like your regular broker has a dependable truck. That's a rare thing out here. Guaranteed he'll be begging you to run more freight. But honestly he needs you more than you need him. There are plenty of good brokers out there right now looking for carriers and drivers that can give them consistency on decent rates sheltering both sides from the wild swings of late. You never really expect to run across people like that but when you run the same lanes all the time it happens. You'll see it at some point and that'll be his loss if things don't shape up.
     
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  3. PPLC

    PPLC Road Train Member

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    God, that's the truth. It's nice to have someone to call up when your customer has another of X, Y, or Z run, and you know with a reasonable degree of certainty that you have a guy who will do it, do it well, and won't gank you like the fella who took me for a ride on Thursday. Paid double what I normally pay for one of my regular lanes because none of my usual guys were around, and the end customer needed the material badly. So, a van guy got $2000 for 400 miles. Can't fault him for it- my customer wasn't happy to pay it, but he shouldn't have hemmed and haw'd when I had a truck for $1500. Chicago is a whacky market, and swings so much harder than the rest.
     
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  4. Misesian

    Misesian Road Train Member

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    I show up for my load from Erlanger to Indy last night and found out it was cancelled. My other load picks today to Memphis so I can get myself home for a few days. Both loads with TQL. I ended up doing 400miles for free to get here to my Memphis load. Luckily this agent was an honest guy and said he would agree to my charge of 300.00 for TONU plus help on the DH miles. Even though I ran a lot of empty miles that 300.00 pay keeps me at 1.98 all miles on this SNAFU. It was an air freight load and the plane was delayed.

    The roads were bad last night where I'm picking up in IL and I was taking it easy on the city streets to get here. I see a car coming and they start drifting over. I was like, great, here we go. So I'm empty trying to stop so I don't start sliding. I slid a little but got stopped. They slid into the curb a few feet in front of my bumper and after a few seconds got rolling again. My night wasn't going well to begin with and that would have been the icing on the cake.
     
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  5. TallJoe

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    The got me out of the house in this chill yesterday afternoon $4500 for 900 miles to South Carolina. I was not planning on it at all. This is my best rate this year yet. I see Convoy is paying crazy rates out of Edwardsville, IL too, paying $2500 for 360 miles - I am sure they're Walmart DC deliveries. There must be a real truck shortage. No fun to start the truck up in this weather though. Should have never turned it off.
     
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  6. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

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    1500 was a very fair rate for both parties. I have no pity for the ganking your customer revived by having to pay 2000. Thay same customer will be ganking the trucks by paying 700 on that run when the market turns back in his favor.
     
  7. PPLC

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    No disagreement there. Part of the problem is thay my guy is new. They let my previous POC go a few weeks ago. New guy is pulling double duty until they hire a new shipping guy, and is having to learn the process. Thing is, I don't think the market'll swing back that hard in his favor. First time I did that lane, I paid $900. Subsequently, it averages $1000-$1200, unless it's a rush. Problem is where it's located. It's still in the Chicago market, but it's coming from an outlying town. Don't want to get into too many specifics, but there's usually at least an hour and a half of deadhead involved. So, they're gonna have to learn how to deal with it, especially since that marketplace is actually paying attention to HOS. I had a dozen turnaways on calls about that load because of hours. It's interesting to see.
     
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  8. TallJoe

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    Question to reefer operators.
    ELD vs reefer shipping/delivering?
    How do you reefer guys cope with reefer deliveries against 14 hour clock.? Do you leave the receiver after being unloaded on Personal Conveyance, if 14 hours is exceeded or try to stay at the facility till 8 hour reset? What's the solution? Is it even still a common problem, to be detained for 4-6 hours, in the reefer world?
     
  9. Misesian

    Misesian Road Train Member

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    I got hosed on detention time here recently but, until then, it has been awhile since I've been delayed like that. Even many of the WalMart DCs are getting me out in 2-3 hours. I'm booking my own loads so I take getting parked somewhere into account. I have used PC a few times to go 3-4 miles to the truck stop. I've noticed many of the meat plants and DCs are now letting me check in and drop my trailer so I can do my break instead of making me stay hooked and work off the clock. I think the ELD mandate has caused a shift in thinking in that example. Tyson DCs used to make live loads stay hooked and shuffle around from staging to door and back to staging but the three I've been to recently let me drop and park and they do it all; I do my break and go check on it when I get up.
    When I was company at Knight and didn't have choice I'd be sent in for a delivery and maybe have 2 hours left. Of course I'm going to have to drive over my clock to park. The office people don't care about that though; all they see is you e got hours to deliver it. Once you have choice you don't have to put yourself in those situations to make money.
     
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  10. Misesian

    Misesian Road Train Member

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    I might have some new opportunities here in February. A broker has called me in the past with a deal but I wasn't interested, but now I am. This deal is only possible if a couple things fall in place and over the past week I have been on the phone constantly and sending plenty of emails. I'm almost done, just waiting on one party to this deal to give me some numbers. It would be a dedicated deal, round trip loads, running 3000 - 3250 total miles a week, all through him, year round, slow season 2 - 2.05 all miles, busy season running 2.25 - 2.35 all miles. There is more to this whole thing than just running some loads but I'm excited about the opportunity here to turn it into something.
     
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  11. hellpatrol

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    Good luck with that, hope it pans out for you. It'll be nice to have a run where you can plan and budget. One question, what will happen to it when you're not rolling? Someone else running or it can wait for you to come back?
     
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