How is working not on duty?
Also, how is logging your pre trips silly? Or do you think you have to log 15 minutes each pre trip?
Simply follow the law. I.E. log it as you do it. If it takes 10 minutes to pre the tractor, then move, then 5 to pre the trailer, so what?
straight ELD mode!
Discussion in 'Superior Carriers' started by yankatank, Sep 23, 2019.
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I clock in, I go to the truck and log into the ELD, do my pre trip then, other than the 30 minute break, don't touch it until I log out 12 hours later and go home.
Even OTR I logged legal. I'm sorry you have such a poor job you feel the need to break the law just to work more hours. -
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Just so you know, all inspecting is ON Duty. Just because you can cheat the ELD doesn't mean it's legal. Here is the relevant regs so you can be more informed of the laws you actually work under.
§395.2 Definitions.
On-duty time means all time from the time a driver begins to work or is required to be in readiness to work until the time the driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work. On-duty time shall include:
(1) All time at a plant, terminal, facility, or other property of a motor carrier or shipper, or on any public property, waiting to be dispatched, unless the driver has been relieved from duty by the motor carrier;
(2) All time inspecting, servicing, or conditioning any commercial motor vehicle at any time;
(3) All driving time as defined in the term driving time;
(4) All time in or on a commercial motor vehicle, other than:
(i) Time spent resting in or on a parked vehicle, except as otherwise provided in §397.5 of this subchapter;(5) All time loading or unloading a commercial motor vehicle, supervising, or assisting in the loading or unloading, attending a commercial motor vehicle being loaded or unloaded, remaining in readiness to operate the commercial motor vehicle, or in giving or receiving receipts for shipments loaded or unloaded;
(ii) Time spent resting in a sleeper berth; or
(iii) Up to 2 hours riding in the passenger seat of a property-carrying vehicle moving on the highway immediately before or after a period of at least 8 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth;
(6) All time repairing, obtaining assistance, or remaining in attendance upon a disabled commercial motor vehicle;
(7) All time spent providing a breath sample or urine specimen, including travel time to and from the collection site, to comply with the random, reasonable suspicion, post-crash, or follow-up testing required by part 382 of this subchapter when directed by a motor carrier;
(8) Performing any other work in the capacity, employ, or service of, a motor carrier; and
(9) Performing any compensated work for a person who is not a motor carrier.
Now I highlighted in red exactly what part of the law you are breaking so you can help educate yourself.
So yes, not logging inspections is a log violation, even if your company doesn't care. Therefore you do not run legal, no matter how much you think you do. If you don't think I'm correct, why not go into the next weigh station and tell them about all your inspection time you are not logging and see if you walk out without a citation. Hint, you won't. -
Stop feeding the Troll, you're just going to run around around in circles with it. Put it on 'ignore' and move on.
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