Straight SAE 40 VS. 15W40

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  1. freightlinerman

    freightlinerman Road Train Member

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    The comparison between a SS and 40 weight was simply to state the fears of people trying something new. It was a comparison of a negative item on a Super Single (not being able to limp it) to using a different oil(engine failing). I'm sure there are many people that have used SAE 40 instead of 15W40. Again, all I wanted to see was the wear number from an oil analysis to compare. If no one want's to volunteer, that's fine.

    Someone posted 15W40 has been proven, I've yet to see any proof in comparison which is why I posted this thread. You're right, this post does have very little information which is why I simply wanted to get more. I'm not sure where all this negativity is coming from.
     
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  3. 1johnb

    1johnb Medium Load Member

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    worked for a bulk oil jobber. In the winter at about 10 degrees or less 15w 40 was harder to pump and slower pumping than straight 40 explain that.
     
  4. popcorn169

    popcorn169 Road Train Member

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    You should have asked if anyone is using SAE40 compared to 15W40 and if they would give an oil sample reading you probably would not have had the negativity that you are getting. And I was curious as to why you would ask someone to do that experament instead doing it yourself kind of gave me the impression that you where afraid until I read that you where in the military. Thank you for your service.
     
  5. SmokinCAT

    SmokinCAT Road Train Member

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    Another thing that might be gaining you some grief is why would you mess with something that works. The newer engines have to have CJ-4 oil anyways, I don't think there is any straight weight oil that meets these requirements.
     
  6. freightlinerman

    freightlinerman Road Train Member

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    Let me answer a couple posts here. SAE 40 is thicker when cold than 15W40, which is why it is thick. Even in 30 degree weather, I can still start a 6V92T with SAE 40 with no block heater or ether.

    I will be posting an oil analysis shortly from my 8v71 that had 15W40, it had fuel dilution of 6.5% causing the oil to turn into a 10W30.

    Also, it would have been a better idea to ask. Not everyone thinks alike or thinks to ask a simple question. True too on the CJ-4. But, wasn't CJ-4 for 2007 or 2004 and up models?
     
  7. bender

    bender Road Train Member

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    Two stroke Detroits fire twice as often as a four stroke engine and two stroke Detroits have a short stroke in comparison to other engines being used. This is why you can get it to fire up with 40 wt in 30* weather.
     
  8. freightlinerman

    freightlinerman Road Train Member

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    Here is an oil analysis of 15W40 before I changed it to SAE in an 8v71N I just picked up.

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  9. roymulchand

    roymulchand Bobtail Member

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    I am very lost here.

    I have an 1988 MCI 102 C3 Bus with a 5 Speed Tranny and 8V92 Engine. I wanna put straight SAE 40 Oil in it.

    I only drive the bus on 4-6 Trips a year and the bus will be running for 30 hours straight each way over a weekend (60-70 hours in a weekend, 4+ times per year). Half in Summer, Half in Cold Canadian Winter.

    An MCI endorsed mechanic recommends highly I put in 15w40 and so does a good friend of mine. Everyone online says to do the 40 weight. I gotta make a decision on this by tonight.


    PS. This is my first post! Thanks for your knowledge and experience!
     
  10. allan5oh

    allan5oh Road Train Member

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    Your engine requires an sae 40 oil. On a two stroke there are no advantages I know of going to 15w40 except cold starts. You could have problems with oil consumption and exhaust valves going with 15w40.



    The one gentleman is mistaken about viscosity. Out of the bottpe a sae40 is always thciker than a 15w40 below engine operating temperature.
     
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  11. bender

    bender Road Train Member

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    The engine design requires straight SAE 40w as recommended by the manufacturer, Always did and always will, that's the fact and no opinions will change that. Oil consumption increases in a two stroke Detroit when using 15-40 oil.
     
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