Strange phenomenon with fresh blacktop.

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Infosaur, Sep 30, 2019.

  1. Infosaur

    Infosaur Road Train Member

    I'm cruising along on relatively new blacktop when all the sudden my trailer starts wanting to sway. It's like I put a wheel off on the shoulder but I'm fully in my lane. Then the truck seems to start wandering left and right, like I'm in a grove. But the trailer, being 41' behind me is doing the same thing at the opposite side of the wave.

    Of course, I'm sure it looks like I've spiked my coffee with Jameson, and I'd be embarrassed about how it looks if I wasn't focusing on keeping my truck in the lane.

    Anyone else having this problem?
    Is this a Northeast thing?
    Bad road work?
    Or just something I've only just experienced now after a meager 10 years on the road?
     
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  3. rbrtwbstr

    rbrtwbstr Road Train Member

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    ALL road work in the Northeast is bad!!!!!
     
  4. buddyd157

    buddyd157 Road Train Member

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    could be the "oils" in the new blacktop seeping it's way up to the top.

    remember back in CDL school (or any driving school) that we were told the first few minutes of driving in a rain can be especially slippery.??

    that's cuz all the embedded oils/fluids form all the traffic start rising in the rain to be washed away.

    i'd only suggest when driving on new blacktop, be aware of the slippery conditions as the average 4 wheeler certainly will not, and may slide into you.
     
  5. Intothesunset

    Intothesunset Road Train Member

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    I am thinking modern roads are not made as good as old methods of blacktop. But I'm am just guessing.
     
  6. buddyd157

    buddyd157 Road Train Member

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    well i'll say this, about that....

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    back in the olden days, there was a very thick concrete sub-base, then several inches of blacktop. i can recall many highways not needed pot hole repairs or resurfacing for decades.

    then came along MORE federal highway monies, and the bid process for repairs.

    it takes x millions of dollars to cut up, and repave the roads, and no one had better believe that all that work is under the bid..there are ALWAYS cost over-runs, and as a result, the concrete sub base maybe gets patched, rather than replaced and LESS blacktop is used, and more often than not, the blacktop is done in stages, rather than an entire width, leaving way too many long running seams, to allow water to get in, freeze, and give us pot holes.

    all this for the wonderful fuel tax, and tolls truckers pay dearly for.
     
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  7. LDLWells

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    What's the industry in the area? Trucks might be hauling heavy through there creating dips
     
  8. Infosaur

    Infosaur Road Train Member

    Well that's a sobering thought.
    But wouldn't it have to be relatively warm? And it's not brand-brand new. More like within 12 months. Feels almost like there are already ruts in the new road, but I can't see them.

    I-78 in NJ up in the Watchung mountains to be specific. Eastbound between x33 and x43 we'll call it.
     
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  9. FoolsErrand

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    Jack that truck up and make sure you arent losing a wheel bearing.

    Last year i lost the front passenger side bearing which wiped out the spindle locknut and cotter and ejected entire hub. I got ONE warning.. It was a random countersteer. I was veering right at a fork at 1am headed to work in november and it lunged to the left. I thought i slid on black ice in the fork. It was the race letting go. 1/4 mile later there was just enough growl to get slowed down before bang.. Parked on the front beam in middle of the road.

    And no it wasnt neglect.
     
  10. Snow Monster

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    Road oil can come to the top with a change in temperature, doesn't have to be hot.
    Sometimes it's just condensation on top of the fresh asphalt, but it can still be slippery.
    As for the rut thing, if you have low pro tires you'll feel the ruts a lot more than you will with taller tires, one of the reasons I prefer 24.5 over 22.5 tires, the taller tires are more forgiving, don't wander so much.
     
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  11. Intothesunset

    Intothesunset Road Train Member

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    A few weeks ago I went over fresh asphalt stretch and later my trailer has fresh new undercoat pretection.
     
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