Strapping a Load

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by TrooperRat, Dec 29, 2007.

  1. Scott Mac.

    Scott Mac. Bobtail Member

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    Thats a long hiatus TR, hope everything worked out for the best.

    Whats the regulation or popular opinion say about rolling up the entire strap in the winch? In the 15 years I've worked in the trucking industry in the two companies I've worked for it has always been common practice to stick the strap in the slot of the winch about 8" and just wind up the strap onto the barrel of the winch.
     
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  3. TrooperRat

    TrooperRat Medium Load Member

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    I can't tell you for a fact - as I have heard a lot of different stories - I only know that DOT around these parts have told us that the strap is to be fed entirely through the slot.

    The common practice is to fold the strap, insert the fold into the slot, just barely pull it out the other side and fold up the rest of it. Drivers like to do this because when you go to take off the strap, it's a simple matter of sticking the bar in the winch, loosening it up and the strap falls out versus having to pull the entire strap back through the slot. The (so-called) experts state that in an accident, if enough force is placed on the strap in such conditions, the entire strap can pull out of the winch. I'm not the expert, this is what I have read and is what DOT was proclaiming.

    I haven't seen anyone doing it like you have stated and wonder if that would meet legal requirements.

    Because of the severity of accidents that occur when loads are falling off of trucks, I have always opted to pull the thing all the way through. I have noted that the strap does not have to be fed inside the rub rails - don't know when they changed that. I guess I think it kind of dumb to have a rub rail and - not use it. The cost in time is less than nominal to feed the strap both through the rub rail and entirely through the winch slot. It is also nominal in putting on an extra strap beyond what is required.

    Thanks for the words, life is life - just needed to work through things. I visited this site off and on but wasn't making any posts or doing much commenting.
     
  4. Scott Mac.

    Scott Mac. Bobtail Member

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    In this area it is common practice to store the straps on the winch.
     
  5. Brickman

    Brickman Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    What holds a strap IN the winch is friction. Whether that friction comes from folding the strap and sticking it thru the slot enough to get a wrap and start the friction or sticking the whole thing thru and catching the friction.

    In a wreck neither one is going to hold any better than the other as long as friction is maintained. If a strap gets loosened enough to allow the folded strap to pull thru that same strap pulled all the way thru will be loose enough to allow the freight to fall off the trailer too. Yeah so what that the strap end stayed in the winch. The freight is still off the trailer.

    DOT goobers think they are God, but they aint. Some of them I've met are really really stupid. Probably couldn't make it as a truck driver and took that job.

    On the other hand I've run across a few DOT men that are professional about their jobs. Those I can respect, the rest I do not!
     
  6. Highballin

    Highballin Road Train Member

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    Peopl has tried to tell me how to load and chain heavy equip.I just ask them who hired them to drive thes load because Im if I am I do it with all the chains I think it needs even if thats to many. A driver for a Cat dealer told me a DOT Officer give them the law on chaining.A D8 Cat.4 on tracks 1 on blade. Rubber tired backhoe.4 on mach.1 on front bucket,one on bucket of hoe,one holding out riggers together..As far as the D8 moving O yes it will I have slid one with a Rachet Boomer.Steel on Steel.
     
  7. nyc truck inspector

    nyc truck inspector Bobtail Member

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    the strap question i dont know but it makes sense to have them inside the rub rails . i will find out the answer . cfr states for heavy machinery that you must prevent against movement in all directions . to me that means 2 chains in front , 2 chains in rear . rear prevents forward movement , front prevents movement to rear , and the front right and rear right prevent movement to the left .also must tie down shovel seperatley . flatbeds require 1 tie down every ten feet . if load is over 5 ft or more than 1100 lbs you must use 2 .go to fmcsa web site look up part 393 . its all violations concerning parts and accesories for safe operation . securement is under 393.100 .
     
  8. MGASSEL

    MGASSEL Road Train Member

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    Each load must have atleast 2 tie downs if I rember right one on the front and one on the rear plus one for every 10 feet for flatbeds.
     
  9. TrooperRat

    TrooperRat Medium Load Member

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    I always over-chained on heavy equipment - loaders/water trucks/trackhoes/everything construction. Most new equipment has the chain points clearly identified for the entire piece of machinery. I've seen too many accidents - I always opt for more than less or just-legal.
     
  10. TrooperRat

    TrooperRat Medium Load Member

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    I've seen plenty of equipment with chain points in the front, back and 1 or 2 or even 3 places - depending on the size and weight of the load - in the middle parts. I'm no heavy equipment expert - but I have dabbled in it in the construction industry.
     
  11. cadillacdude1975

    cadillacdude1975 Road Train Member

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    this is a good thread that needs to be revived for new members to read. i have a final interview today, running flatbed that will be mostly pipe and construction materials, and i found this thread helpful. i have never pulled a flatbed, but this job is here locally, and if i take the flatbed end of it, i will be home 3 to 4 nights a week and on the weekends. that is a far cry from the otr crap i have been doing for the last 2+ years.
     
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