One question I never see addressed when the hours of service rules are being truncated is the non homologation of the rules in North America.
Apparently, a great deal of data and research go into setting up the allowable driving and rest periods.
Can someone then tell me why there is such a disparity between the Canadian rules and those down south? We are fighting over minutes here.
Why is it that in Canada , you can drive for 13 hours , be on duty for 15 hours , and split your log. Versus the 11 - 14 hour rule in The USA with that 10hour rest period
If all the criteria gathered in order to determine hours of operation are equal (as they should be) what could allow such a disparity. Allowing 13 hours driving is a huge increment from 11 hours.
Can it be the pressure applied by the trucking associations on the governing bodies that accounts for the difference. The two biggest trade partners in Canada are the cities on Toronto On. and Montreal Qc. These destinations are around 5.5 hours apart, therefore allowing a return trip in a day.
The other alternative is that we Canadians are super human , or certainly superior to our Southern neighbors. I will not entertain the thought that it is harder to drive in the USA than in Canada. It is not more boring to drive from Winnipeg MB. to Calgary than from Iowa through the Dakotas. As for traffic give me greater New york city or Chicago over Toronto. Then lets not talk about the condition of the roads.
So before CSA gets crazy , why doesn't anybody bring this up with the FMCSA?
Super Human Canadians
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by alex1010, Nov 28, 2012.
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You Canadians must be superhuman. I'm guessing its due to all that snow you gotta shovel every winter!

Now if you would just keep your cold weather, instead of sending it across Lake Erie to screw up my day, I'd be right appreciative! Bloody Canadians, anyway...
lonewolf21 Thanks this. -
when usa was still 10hrs a day, canada was still 13hrs a day
its all aboot the distances between cities
vancouver to calgary or edmonton 11-13hrs
edm or calgary to winnipeg 13hrs
winnipeg to toronto or montreal 24hrs, so 13 and more than 10 the next day.
if it was only 10hrs, we'd never get anywhere...we also carry moar weight, 37500# on tandems instead of 34000# -
Where's Canada, what is a Canadian, kind of goose....
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That is exactly the point, all the criteria that is used in setting the hours of service rules is based on how the human body functions and it's limits. Apparently, it is based on empirical evidence.
The distances between major Canadian cities should never be a factor in the decision making process. New York city to Seattle WA. is further than Calgary to Winnipeg.
This all leaves one to believe that the whole HOS rules are truly subjective. -
What happens in Canada stays in Canada!

It boils down to keeping tight control on the economy and a countries interpretation of what the fine line is of what they can get away with. They have to keep a happy trade off of deaths to cost of goods.
It just so happens you have a lot of soft snow banks to run into so deaths aren't as high!
I guarantee you once the US lowers the hours enough to where deaths drop dramatically they will then start considering increasing the hours again. They are never happy. -
You're a little off on your hours. South of the 60th parallel we can drive 13 out of 14 hours on-duty in a 16-hour work shift. We have to take 10 hours off, but only 8 has to be consecutive (unless doing split sleeper berth). The remaining 2 hours can be in increments as little as 30 minutes each. We can also defer up to 2 hours to the following day as long as they aren't part of the 8 consecutive.
North of the 60th we can drive for 15 of 18 hours on-duty in a 20-hour work shift and we only have to take 8 hours off. -
Thanks folks ,
You are just re-inforcing the point.
The hours of service rules are supposedly based on what your body can do.
Although Canadian, I am not familiar with the area above the 60th paralell , I just want to go fishing up there. I can just imagine driving up there in a winter blizzard.
Most large Canadian population centers are within 150 miles of the USA, so this is where most of the driving occurs. So in reality there should be no difference.
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