Swapping rims? 2 piece lug nuts to 1 piece lug nuts?

Yes, Dayton is open center , spacer, with spoke hub and wedges.

 

You can find the wheel you need at most any shop or junk yard parts place?

 

What's funny is I thought you were talking the opposite! The unimount nuts are 2 piece, the nut is attached to a washer. The bud are single piece, but 2 are needed to mount drive wheels.

So I'm thinking, why does he want to retrofit budds when has unimounts, and why does he have more budd wheels than unimounts? Then I saw I understood your question wrong.

 

Still alot of trucks running around farm country with budd wheels... Personally I hate hub pilot rims... They can be a ##### to get off the hub if they have been on for a very long time.

But I understand why they came about... Aluminum rims wouldn't work as budd style, the stud holes would wolar out and the rim would fall off.

 

Aluminum wheels surely were used on Budd mountings, tho it surely was uncommon. Wear and corrosion around the lug tapers was an issue for sure. Aluminum wheels used a different barrel nut with a stepped tapper on the wheel end. Remember the splined drive on tool to remove broken inner nuts, porkchop, 1" guns....... Man, changing tires before hub pilot days was alot of work.

 

I changed my drives to hub pilot. Anytime a wheel had to come off out on the road you just drawed up. A lot of the truck stop shops won’t touch them. Not that the procedure is a hard one few just seem to do it. So a few days later you walk around the truck and notice a broke barrel nut or three. Hopefully you have some, as well as the removal tool. If your real lucky the rim isn’t cracked already. Finding aluminum Budds on the road is hell. Running home on a steel is feels like ridin a ####### in the Kentucky derby

 

Huh, I never saw aluminum bud wheels... Maybe they just werent that common in my area. Learn something new every day.

Yeah buds were alot of work with an impact, thats true... But at least they didn't get stuck on the #### hub... Lol

 

Here's mine. International claims based on VIN that it came with hubcentric, and someone must've converted it to stud pilot.

 

My first truck was an 83. We have three now of which the newest is a 2000, and all are stud piloted and aluminum wheels. Recently I put brakes on our lowboy, which is hub piloted. It took an abusive amount of effort to get those #### things off.

Between centering problems and getting the wheels off the hubs I think I prefer to stick to stud piloted. A bit of anti-seize, a pork chop, and inner nut remover and we get by just fine. Granted, we stay relatively local, so buying wheels on the road has not been a problem.

 

I wouldn't bother at this point changing, but if I had 2 identical trucks, one with hub and the other with stud piloted, I'd choose stud piloted for that reason.