Hey guys and gals. Wondering if anybody had any experience going through the Swift Academy, getting hired by Swift, and most importantly working the entire time to have your Academy tuition covered.
The way it was explained to me by Swift is like this:
It costs $8000.
You pay (deducted from your check) $100/wk for 52 weeks and $2800 on week 53.
They pay (added to your check) $50/wk for 104 weeks and $2800 on week 53.
Additionally, room and board for the four week course is $1500. They deduct $50/wk for 30 weeks for that. There is no matching or compensation for that.
So, stay for 53 weeks, your $8000 CDL cost you $2000. Stay for 104 weeks and your CDL ends up costing you nothing.
HOWEVER, if you leave before 53 weeks, you are liable for everything remaining AND even what they have paid in so far! In other words, if you leave at 52 weeks, you have to pay them:
- The $2800 you were going to pay on week 53.
- The $2800 they were going to pay on week 53.
- AND pay them back the $2600 they had paid in for those first 52 weeks!
My question to anybody who has gone through this so far:
1. Did I get this right?
2. What’s to stop them from just screwing you over on the 52nd week? Like “Bob’s about to hit 53 weeks. Fire him now to collect that $6000 tuition he’s about to be off the hook for”.
I know it sounds crazy but we’re not talking peanuts here. $8000 is a lot. Especially for CDL classes.
Thanks!
Swift Academy Repayment?
Discussion in 'Trucking Schools and CDL Training Forum' started by ayaytc, Jun 2, 2022.
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I went in 2019. Prices were a bit different but I forget how much exactly. I think it was a total of $7700 at that time. Also, the details on mine were a bit different because I'm a Veteran and they had a Veterans program that made it all alittle easier and simpler. But, work for them for a year or pay back the tuition was still a thing for me.
Anyway, I didn't have any trouble staying a year. I've never heard or even any rumors of letting a driver go right before like you mention. They do let drivers go. Easiest way I know of to get fired by Swift is have, what they consider, unsafe driving habits and be unwilling to improve and change them. Bottom line is Swift is pretty much always short of drivers to cover their loads. They do not lightly let go of a driver. But, they will let one go.. The $8000 tuition thing is not much of a liability in the scheme of things. Also, there are different bean counters that deal with the tuition stuff than deal with the drivers making money running loads. So, one doesn't bleed over into the other.
Anyway, some companies, at least used to, buy out your tuition expenses if you leave before the year is up with Swift and go with them. Had 1 driver from my class switch to Knight and Knight paid off his tuition. Another gal went to Werner and they did the same thing. I'm unsure of what financial arrangements those 2 driver made with their new companies about paying them back for their Swift tuition fees. But, the new companies paid off what they owed Swift when they went to work for them.
All that said, Swift isn't a bad place to get that first year anyway. At least it wasn't for me. And, still with them after 2 & 1/2 years.
I definitely understand why drivers don't stay with Swift long term. But, for a starter company and to get that first year, I honestly think Swift is one of the better choices unless you are able and want to go through a community College or similar. Even then, you get the CDL but still have to find a starter company. Due to insurance expenses for brand new drivers, there are many trucking companies that frown on hiring a new and completely inexperienced driver. It's just an expensive insurance liability to them and then having to train a driver on how to do the job. So, even if you go the community College route, you'll have limited options.Boondock, Sirscrapntruckalot, bryan21384 and 3 others Thank this. -
Yeah, I hear mostly positive reviews of Swift from drivers on YouTube so they seem legit. It’s good to know Swift Trucking and Swift Academy are separate. But if it’s still Swift Trucking paying the 52 week reimbursement/53 week matching, isn’t it still in Swift Trucking’s financial interest to find some excuse to not pay/recoup the matching?
Sorry if I sound paranoid but I hear the conditions are that if I reject any loads, I lose out. If I have a safety violation, I lose out. What does that mean? At week 52 they bring up that I was 1 MPH over the speed limit for 1 second at some point within the last 365 days?
I want to work for Swift because of their terminal network and they seem like my only option for getting my CDL at this point. But if all the financial incentives align for them to pull this, and the agreement let’s them do it, it doesn’t give me a lot of personal assuranceAnother Canadian driver Thanks this. -
With a 65 mph governed truck, you can still get a speeding ticket, although in many places you simply don't have to worry about it.
What you have to worry about is not being a safe driver and then not changing to improve your safety.
And, NO, it is NOT in their financial interest to let a driver go so they can recoup their training fee. It IS in their interest to have a driver running loads and making money.
Good luck to you. No matter where you go and what you do, you'll be taking and chance and risk is involved. However, Swift is geared for taking driver with no experience and developing them into profession, proficient, and safe drivers. They will put diligent effort into developing a driver toward that. Only those that refuse to change bad habits or are simply incompetent and can't be improved are let go. So, if you honestly think you have enough willingness and humility to develop new and different driving habits, those needed to be a safe driver, you very most likely never have to worry about Swift letting you go. I'd bet good money their training program loses them money and that they simply factor that loss into it all. In the long run, if they can develop a driver and keep them running loads, they make money. They've been doing this for a long time. They know what their doing. Even though they give many who should never consider being a driver a chance and end up with bad results. Those are the ones who tend to show up on the Swiftie dumb driver videos.
Go into this with 3 priorities, importantly in this order: 1. Be safe. 2. Be legal. 3. Get the load delivered on time. Never compromise about being safe and legal to get a load delivered on time.Eight Omens and Another Canadian driver Thank this. -
I remember one driver that went for 5 years and still was fearful and paranoid about a trucking career. I asked him about the other students that were in his class at cdl school. I said, those other classmates are 5 years closer to retirement than you are. He said, yeah, but the reviews frighten me and I don't want to make a mistake. So, he was letting drivers he had never met in person and stuff he read online, keep him unemployed. One company sent a plane ticket and two others sent bus tickets to go to orientation, and he still stayed home and didn't even call the companies to let them know he wouldn't be there for orientation. He finally stopped posting on here.
Note: Swift/Knight have 23,000 trucks on the road; very successful company. Didn't become so successful by having policies of mistreating drivers.
I haven't worked for Swift, but have worked for several companies. Every one of them I was warned and told I would regret it and would be mistreated. That made me even more bullheaded to take the jobs. I refused to let some whiner truck driver run my life and make decisions for me.Last edited: Jun 3, 2022
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One crazy rumor that's been going around for years, is that trucking companies make lots of money by hiring drivers, then spend thousands of dollars training them, then fire them, then the Federal Government rewards them by giving the trucking company a big check; the government is paying companies to fire drivers.....lol.
So, trucks sitting empty, not hauling freight because the real money is in being paid to fire drivers.Boondock, BennysPennys and Another Canadian driver Thank this. -
Not asking to be facetious but I just really want to know I’m not digging myself a grave before I agree to (potentially) pay for a CDL at a very inflated price.
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