Swift maybe my way out of here

Ok, what is your goal here?

If you are trying to convince drivers that having a camera in the cab is not such a bad thing, you are preaching to the wrong choir. No sane driver is going to agree, no matter how much sugar you put on it.

A truck driver is not going to care that cops/ems/whatever has them. None of those live in the vehicle for months at a time.

But continue defending the #### things.

 

It should apply, but very often if it comes down to your word against the word of someone of authority, you are going to lose.

I watched a youtube video of a teaming couple that do the vlog thing. Co-driver was in the pass seat filming each other when they got pulled over by a state trooper (think it was NM). He claimed he was sitting on an overpass and saw the driver on the phone and was ready to hand them a $2500 ticket. They told the trooper they had a camera recording at the time and that driver never touched the phone. He showed the trooper the video footage of them approaching and driving under the overpass and that the phone was never touched.

Ticket avoided.

Sure they could have taken time off work and hired an attorney to fight the ticket, but how many judges do you know of that would take the word of a truck driver (or any civilian for that matter) over that of an LEO?. That "in cab" camera saved that driver that day. Maybe not from a ticket, but surely from the expense of time of and legal expenses.

FWIW I am not for company in-cab cameras, but I can certainly see the benefit in setting up your own to CYA and understand why companies would feel the same way.

 

I know I'm taking an unpopular stance in respect to the cameras and I'm fine with that. You can make your own decisions as to whether you like them, hate them, or are indifferent towards them. I'm not trying to convince drivers of anything, the individual driver doesn't make the call in the first place, the company does. Each and every driver has free will to work and live with that camera or go elsewhere, simple as that.

I'm trying to give you a technical understanding of how they work, why they work that way, and the technological limitations therein and if that makes me that bad guy, that's fine, comes with the territory. People fear and distrust what they don't understand and I'm trying to provide logic and insight into the camera itself not the ideology behind it. The carrier decides to use cameras for their for their own reasons - some of those reasons have a negative effect on the driver and some have a positive effect on the driver.

 

That is another reason why companies use them. It protects them and by extension the driver in a case where someone is accusing the driver or company of wrongdoing. At a branch of the company in Arizona, there was a case where one of the trucks there was cruising down I-10 in Phoenix and had rear ended a car.

The company forwarded the video to police and in the video you can clearly see the passenger vehicle come up on the driver side of the tractor, jerk over in front of it, and slam on the brakes for no reason....other than to be hit by a CMV so they could sue the company for "damages".

The police cleared the driver of any wrongdoing, absolved him of all responsibility since he wasn't speeding, wasn't texting or talking on the phone, and was well away from the car that was in front of him. The driver that instigated the whole thing was arrested and brought up on a whole host of charges including insurance fraud.

 

Wow This was captured by the driver facing camera?

 

Both. Inside camera absolved the driver of any responsibility since he clearly wasn't distracted by anything and you could barely see the car from the inside camera through the small visible portion of the driver door window until it transitioned to the view of the forward facing camera. The interior camera has a fish eye lens so it captures the entire cab and a small section of either door as well.

That particular video, and several others, was used during the training for other branches so that's how we ended up seeing it.

 

But you don't know 100% how they work yourself. You have no proof of anything. You don't know the absolute limits.

So you're just spreading speculation.

 

I've seen how the backend that the companies have access to works and used it myself.

Anything deeper than that would require being an employee of Lytx.

 

Off topic but would anyone recommend Werner over Swift?

 

and as funny as that statement is, the sad part is its true this country is a sue happy country now and wants to sue for every little thing