Hey all...newbie to the forums! I've been searching and searching for hours and can't find a good answer to my question, so my apologies if there is already an answer somewhere. I'm having a problem with my 2 external SWR meters while tuning my personal truck. My father picked up a Pyramid SWR-14 meter years ago and that's what I've always used to tune the CB setups in our fleet (family business). I always just assumed that it was accurate and tuned our radios with it. A few weeks ago I decided to finally install a permanent setup in my personal vehicle (Ram 2500 Cummins). I decided why not grab a new SWR meter so I would remove all doubt when tuning my new setup. I grabbed a RoadPro compact SWR meter at Pilot. I kept changing around my setup...different antenna, spring, no spring, adjust mount, blah, blah. So I was constantly re-tuning. Final setup is a Midland 75-822 radio with the mobile adapter and a 3' Firestik II on driver side stake hole. Now I know a 4' is recommended in that location, but I just don't want a huge antenna all the time and I like the 3' look. I go to tune the antenna the final time in a nice open area and I lose all TX power! No reading on RoadPro meter or on my radio. The radio was working fine all the other times. Return it to store and get a new one which brings me to today...
Go to an open area to tune...this time making my adjustments on the Pyramid SWR-14 as an experiment. Get it to an SWR of 2 on 1 and 40, and a 1.6 on 19. I know this is not anything spectacular, but since I don't want to go to a 4' antenna I figure it's safe. Here's the problem, I hook up the RoadPro (same location, same everything) and am getting an SWR of 3 on Ch.1 and an SWR of 2 on 40.
Obviously something is wrong somewhere, and I don't know how to tell with what. Here's all the differences I noted:
1.Pyramid Meter is solid as a rock no matter how long I TX. RoadPro will often swing around while I'm TXing actually making it hard to get the needle on CAL and will also swing around sometimes when in REF position. Pyramid meter NEVER does this.
2.When testing the power I get a "swing" when whistling on the RoadPro, but I get NO swing at all on the Pyramid SWR meter.
I'm not sure if I fried my transmitter on the last radio because the RoadPro was defective or what's going on, but I'm baffled.
Any insight would be greatly appreciated!!
SWR Meter Help
Discussion in 'CB Radio Forum' started by 2500CTD, Feb 25, 2014.
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Ah, Pyramid... the people with the 500 watt per channel car stereo amplifier with the 10 amp fuse. All for $50! Are they even still in business?
And RoadPro... talk about a race to the bottom!
I'm a big fan of the "cross needle" style of SWR meters. I believe Daiwa came out with this style back in the '80s, but most everyone has them now. The MFJ meters are not bad. Most of these are in the $100 range.
I don't know who makes the SWR meters for Radio Shack, but they've been quite good for the price.
One way to test your SWR meter is to hook it up backwards, and see if it gives the same readings. The FWD/REF switch will operate "backwards", but other than that, the procedure is the same. What this does is see how well the diodes are matched up. If a diode is bad, the readings will be wildly different. (This is also how I was able to determine that my ancient Radio Shack meter worked on the 2m ham band.)
Another thought is to have the local CB shop check your SWR for you. -
If you are not getting any swing on the Pyramid, I'm going to vote it is the problem. Sounds like the cheap one is working just fine. I'm not sure I understood what all you were saying, but I always turn the mic gain down when calibrating the swr meter so the needle is steady and doesn't bounce around during the calibration process.
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Pyramid is bottom of the barrel, get a dosy meter it will give you a true reading for swrs probably can get one reasonable on eBay.
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And sold in every flea market by some Oriental man.
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