System of turnovers how it effects the smaller companies

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Zeus20172017, Jul 12, 2017.

  1. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    There was an article on the OOIDA website yesterday about driver turnover. That it's down to @74%. That companies are happy about this. Down from 136% 10 years ago.
     
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  3. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    I would like to see good numbers regarding "turnover rates" where the biggest 10 mega companies are excluded. The mega carriers skew the numbers so bad when you're trying to study "non-training" carriers. I'm sure turnover at large training carriers is huge, but what about the carriers where experienced drivers land once their early career phase is over?
     
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  4. MysticHZ

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    Not really ... the top 10 megas account for probably less than 100k jobs. Out of 1.7 million drivers, their turn over isn't going to be that big of a driving force.
     
  5. x1Heavy

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    Bringing in Immigrants to fill orientation and pay them .25 a mile half what newbies should start out at... That is part of the problem.

    The overall level of stupid in a given large group of drivers is a result of very lttle training invested in them. Companies are pretty secure in not having to pay out 10,000 dollars at the 7th month or whatever because a situation usually gets manufactured against the driver and causes that one to be no longer eligible.

    There are two little words that define employment in the USA "At will" One of you even goes as far as not to hire anyone with any amount of paperwork to prove past history in trucking, that's actually called experience for better or worse. Half the companies I ran for do not exist anymore. How convenient. Less amount invested in fact checking.

    You will have to clean up a awful lot round the shippers and receivers before drivers are treated any better.

    My solution is to ultimately find one company doing ONE particular type of load ONE specific way. Drop empty, pick up loaded and sealed trailer. Deliver overnight. Reload on the spot with cardboard back to memphis. Drop, find another load. Easy. Mindless. In fact there is no opportunity to get into trouble and lose your job somehow.
     
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  6. Steel Dragon

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    Maybe if pay was better,drivers wouldnt be always,looking at greener pastures.
     
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  7. STexan

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    I don't think so. It's the human condition to always seek out higher pay [and same or less work], no matter where you're currently at pay-wise. Furthermore, higher starting pay rates will just attract more morons into the trade who have no business driving big trucks.

    There should be a genuine love and appreciation of the job involved. Not just a job you really suck at, but pays the bills.
     
  8. WildTiger1990

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    Then more lying recruters company have then bigger turnover company see.
    IF proir to hire people would hear "you will make 700$ week at most" instead of "Our average driver makes 60+ a year
    when working non-stop for 52weeks
    " , the drivers would not join, and companies would not have so huge turnover!
    So STOP LYING and tell us the truth!
     
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  9. Moose1958

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    This is one of the best comments ever made in these boards. This so called driver shortage is only on paper. As long as there is a willing supply of fresh meat this dynamic will be at play. There is NOT a shortage of drivers, only a limit to the money that can be spent on bribes and other stuff to ensure this supply of fresh meat stays in place. Steering wheel holders are a dime a dozen. Professional drivers are worth their weight in gold. There are a few people that post in these boards that are old school like I am. We see this. This situation will never go away till the industry rids itself of steering wheel holders and then respects the pro's and pays them what they are worth!
     
  10. TaterWagon#62

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    Companies advertise to get enough applicants to be able to choose the better of them. The better the candidate, the better chance there is to make money from their work. So they make the pay and conditions of the job appear as enticing as possible. And sometimes they lie.

    It's up to us to learn the signs of a scam or bait and switch.

    $10,000 Sign-On Bonus!!
    A sign-on bonus, really, is nothing but a carrot to entice the driver to stick it out long enough for the company to make some money from the hire. The bonus is coming out of your pay, it otherwise would be so many cents more a mile or an hour. If the conditions to receive the bonus are ridiculous, then you don't want that bonus, just move along and skip the company. If the bonus is a scam, what else are they up to?

    Top Drivers Average $10m a year! Means that the best, most senior and experienced drivers who know how to work their system much better than you will for a very long time, if ever, have done that. Or, it might even be the owner bragging about how he is the only Top Driver at the company... Not really relevant for a new hire. Might want to ask a lot of questions.

    Great/Awesome/Generous Home Time! Means whatever they say it means. Not a sentence containing any real information. Better ask questions...

    Great/Awesome/Generous Benefits! Again, meaningless statement. Ask lots of questions. Get details.

    The bigger the company the more of these meaningless hooks seem to appear in the job listings. They must teach these in marketing school or something: "How to Write 300 Word Copy Without Communicating Anything Resembling a Fact, But Communicating Much Wonderfulness 101".
     
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  11. Steel Dragon

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    Every company should offer a guarantee of $1000 a week,to live in a truck.
    I refuse to work for less.
     
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