Taking on Goliath---My Fight With TQL

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by gekko1323, Aug 29, 2024.

  1. 86scotty

    86scotty Road Train Member

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    Good points. I can't really speak to your situation. Well, I already have by saying I can't stand trying to work with those snakes. But I work regularly with other snakes. We're all playing Indiana Jones out here dodging snakes on the spot market.
     
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  3. 46/71 Hybrid

    46/71 Hybrid Bobtail Member

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    This is two separate questions; My question was if the wording in your ratecons allows for verbal cancellation.

    To answer your question though, there's nothing that prevents a party from attempting to cancel a contract verbally but in almost every case of contract law that I've seen, the cancellation needs to be done in writing since it's an amendment to a written contract.

    For a hypothetical, let's say you're hauling a trailer from NY to LA on a written contract. Once in KS, you decide you don't want to deal with it and you call them and verbally agree you're going to drop the trailer at the nearest trucktop in KC. You drop it and go about your business and then a few months later get a lawsuit in the mail. Now let's imagine the exact same situation but this time, they agree verbally and send a signed written amendment stating they agree to the trailer drop in KC. Which do you think will hold up in court?
     
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  4. 46/71 Hybrid

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    It’s understandable to feel something’s off, but remember Hanlon's Razor: 'Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.' It’s possible that the situation isn’t due to any malicious intent. Sometimes, large companies like TQL have miscommunications or oversights, especially when dealing with multiple parties and complex logistics. The lack of a paper trail might simply be an error or a breakdown in their usual procedures rather than a deliberate attempt to cause confusion or harm. While it's frustrating, it might be more a case of disorganization or oversight rather than anything fishy.

    That said, my guess is that if it was intentional, they might have been location shopping, and whoever handled it had a budget or bonus and was trying to keep all of it rather than pay a fair wage.
     
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  5. PPNLE

    PPNLE Road Train Member

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    Guess I've got some back reading to do.
     
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  6. Rideandrepair

    Rideandrepair Road Train Member

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    1/2 price after 9:00? Good to know. Finally got something I can benefit from reading this post!! I get it. I’m guessing the real motivation on your part was getting the freight on your way home. I’m just wondering, why bother burning a bridge if they’ve been good in the past. I also can’t help wondering how much $$$ it’s going to cost arguing over $825. Sure is a lot of aggravation on your part, TQL won’t be affected at all. I would have DH home. Probably not worked with them again. If so, it would cost them. Lesson Learned. I’m sure that 10 page contract has them covered somewhere. I wish you the best. Been screwed over by TQL once. First and Last time.
     
  7. gekko1323

    gekko1323 Road Train Member

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    Nah...If the load would have fallen through I would have stayed at the Wildhorse for the weekend, and grabbed a load Monday. I needed a break and I'm not keen on dead-heading 900 miles for the hell of it.

    Applebees has 1/2 price appetizers twice a day every day from 3pm to 6pm and from 9pm to closing.
     
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  8. snicrep

    snicrep Heavy Load Member

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    Just a surface observation. I don't know you, but I've known people who act like they are smarter than everyone in the room. When you start calling people " genius" or other sarcasms, they tend to be put off. But regarding your plight, I am completely ignorant.
     
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  9. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    You would've been way ahead of the game to just never hooked to the trailer and go on your merry way. Then file it away in the "I'll get em next time" folder. You could've gouged them when they were in a bind calling you up the next time.

    But you can't now because you're in a mess where they short paid you on other loads. They've got a team of lawyers on retainer and don't care, it's only a headache for you. They just spent over $30,000,000 adding a running track and some gym equipment to their corporate headquarters in Ohio.
     
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  10. TheLoadOut

    TheLoadOut Road Train Member

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    To be fair they didn't spend $30 million, all the companies they short paid, fined, swindled, screwed over, they paid for that gym.
     
  11. Constant Learner

    Constant Learner Medium Load Member

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    He knew very well he's playing with the snake,
    the snake was in a good mood and did bite him a little bit, and now he's crying like he's dying.
     
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