Tandem flatbed.

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by 6wheeler, Aug 29, 2016.

  1. 6wheeler

    6wheeler Road Train Member

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    Anyone got any comparisons of a tamdem axle flatbed to a spread axle?
    Was looking at buying a used tamdem today.
     
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  3. Ruthless

    Ruthless Road Train Member

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    One of my step decks is a closed fixed tandem.
    Backs a little differently than a spread especially on uneven terrain: follows the push vs transferring which axle is directing it like a spread.
    Can't load a fixed tandem trailer heavy quite the same: idk about a slider/never had one.

    What specifically do you want to know?
     
  4. 6wheeler

    6wheeler Road Train Member

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    I'm not sure what I want to know. Like I have 2 spread axle flatbeds, can the tandem handle anything that a spread can't and vice versa
     
  5. The fixed closed tandem is 34k
    Spread is 40k
    (Depending on distance between 6' - 10')
     
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  6. Ruthless

    Ruthless Road Train Member

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    Well, I'll give you an example see if it fits with what you do.

    I run 48' trailers, I have a 265" wheelbase tractor. I have 8 bag kW suspension, which may effect the outcome of this example...

    With an alum spread axle, 30" pin setting, 50k on the deck: fifth wheel centered between drives I have 10,000 lbs on my steer axle.
    With the fifth wheel all the way forward, I have 10,500 on my steer axle.

    Weight doesn't transfer well thru my fifth wheel slider, I'd imagine bc the 8 bag doesn't push weight forward much to begin with.

    Now consider that if I had a closed tandem, there'd be no way to get 12/34/34 on axle groups when the steer axle doesn't take up the slack.
    ( I realize there's exceptions to this formula, just using it for simplicity)

    With a spread I can load 34k on my drives and push 18k thru each axle on the trailer, still plenty legal as they can carry 20k each.

    Now if you don't run a wheelbase like mine, and can transfer weight to your steer I suppose you may be alright to scale a legal heavy load.

    If you don't run much heavy stuff, prolly fine.

    If you go into and out of a lot of tight jobsites, a slider/closed tandem is a safer bet. ( I know I know, "use a dump valve"
    -a dump valve doesn't save a tire on a dumped axle when it slides sideways over a sharp granite curb getting rammed sideways into a jobsite)

    So really: all depends on what you do.

    Can you make a tool work for a job it wasn't quite designed for? Yes. Won't always work how you want tho.
     
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  7. barroll

    barroll Road Train Member

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    Get a good airbag scale setup on a spread axle and you'll never have to shell out $10.50 for an axle scale again. Until the customer requires it, in which case you just bump up the rate $100. Not having to worry about sliding axles is a huge plus as well, especially if you're looking at used trailers.

    I've never had to worry about axle weight with a spread axle. Steer axle and first trailer axle is all any decent DOT officer wants to see at a single axle scale since they know if you didn't screw either of those up you're fine 99% of the time.
     
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  8. Bdog

    Bdog Road Train Member

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    I have a spread and wish it were a tandem. I haul my own stuff most the time and it isn't that heavy. A tandem is easier to maneuver and easier on tires. If you haul heavy a spread is a blessing because you can load the trailer heavy and not really have to worry too much about axle weights if you are good on gross.
     
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  9. larry2903

    larry2903 Heavy Load Member

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    One of the reasons I know flats went to fixed spread is for weight savings, sliding tandems add weight. I can't remember how much, I don't think it is a significant amount. A good air gauge on sliding tandems will also relieve you of the $10.50 cat scale fee. Before I parked my flat I was considering trading for a sliding tandem flat, main reason is because it would be much easier on tires.
     
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  10. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    Tandem isn't the way to go. And keep the trailer at 48 feet you won't have to worry about tandems.

    @peterbilt_2005 You need more then 8 feet to jump from 34 to 38k. 9 feet allows 39 and 10 feet for 40.

    It's in the atlas. Under bridge formula table.
     
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  11. I threw the 6' - 10' spread in parentheses. I didn't have my bridge numbers for all the distances between 6 &10' spread. @Ruthless your post had alot more info. I should of kept digging my hole and not texting. Lol
     
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