Anyone got any comparisons of a tamdem axle flatbed to a spread axle?
Was looking at buying a used tamdem today.
Tandem flatbed.
Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by 6wheeler, Aug 29, 2016.
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One of my step decks is a closed fixed tandem.
Backs a little differently than a spread especially on uneven terrain: follows the push vs transferring which axle is directing it like a spread.
Can't load a fixed tandem trailer heavy quite the same: idk about a slider/never had one.
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The fixed closed tandem is 34k
Spread is 40k
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Well, I'll give you an example see if it fits with what you do.
I run 48' trailers, I have a 265" wheelbase tractor. I have 8 bag kW suspension, which may effect the outcome of this example...
With an alum spread axle, 30" pin setting, 50k on the deck: fifth wheel centered between drives I have 10,000 lbs on my steer axle.
With the fifth wheel all the way forward, I have 10,500 on my steer axle.
Weight doesn't transfer well thru my fifth wheel slider, I'd imagine bc the 8 bag doesn't push weight forward much to begin with.
Now consider that if I had a closed tandem, there'd be no way to get 12/34/34 on axle groups when the steer axle doesn't take up the slack.
( I realize there's exceptions to this formula, just using it for simplicity)
With a spread I can load 34k on my drives and push 18k thru each axle on the trailer, still plenty legal as they can carry 20k each.
Now if you don't run a wheelbase like mine, and can transfer weight to your steer I suppose you may be alright to scale a legal heavy load.
If you don't run much heavy stuff, prolly fine.
If you go into and out of a lot of tight jobsites, a slider/closed tandem is a safer bet. ( I know I know, "use a dump valve"
-a dump valve doesn't save a tire on a dumped axle when it slides sideways over a sharp granite curb getting rammed sideways into a jobsite)
So really: all depends on what you do.
Can you make a tool work for a job it wasn't quite designed for? Yes. Won't always work how you want tho.MJ1657, 6wheeler and Diesel Dave Thank this. -
Get a good airbag scale setup on a spread axle and you'll never have to shell out $10.50 for an axle scale again. Until the customer requires it, in which case you just bump up the rate $100. Not having to worry about sliding axles is a huge plus as well, especially if you're looking at used trailers.
I've never had to worry about axle weight with a spread axle. Steer axle and first trailer axle is all any decent DOT officer wants to see at a single axle scale since they know if you didn't screw either of those up you're fine 99% of the time. -
I have a spread and wish it were a tandem. I haul my own stuff most the time and it isn't that heavy. A tandem is easier to maneuver and easier on tires. If you haul heavy a spread is a blessing because you can load the trailer heavy and not really have to worry too much about axle weights if you are good on gross.
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Tandem isn't the way to go. And keep the trailer at 48 feet you won't have to worry about tandems.
@peterbilt_2005 You need more then 8 feet to jump from 34 to 38k. 9 feet allows 39 and 10 feet for 40.
It's in the atlas. Under bridge formula table.SidewaysBentHalo and 6wheeler Thank this. -
I threw the 6' - 10' spread in parentheses. I didn't have my bridge numbers for all the distances between 6 &10' spread. @Ruthless your post had alot more info. I should of kept digging my hole and not texting. Lol
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