Tandem placement and turning radius

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by expedite_it, Jan 22, 2022.

  1. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    If there is nothing on the opposite side for the trailer to swing into then you may as well cut the back of your trailer off because in effect it stops at your tandems when making a corner. Park a 53 next to a 42ft hopper and they’re basically the same trailer as far as cornering goes when tail swing isn’t a factor. It’s not done complicated thing that needs analyzed for days on end.
     
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  3. InTooDeep

    InTooDeep Donner party survivor

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  4. expedite_it

    expedite_it Road Train Member

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    Yes; There was a big yellow concrete post on the other (on my right-hand side) side and a line of trailers of trailers on the other side. If there was nothing on the other side that I had to worry about hitting, I would have never created this thread.
     
  5. Wasted Thyme

    Wasted Thyme Road Train Member

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    Can I respectfully suggest you hang up your keys. Because after 7 years and 1 million miles. You still don't understand how to operate a CMV. Everything you have asked. Are entry level questions. Not trying to be mean or snarky. Just that sometimes we're not cut out for a line of work.
     
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  6. expedite_it

    expedite_it Road Train Member

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    I've never had any wreck driving a semi-truck going forward. My only accident in seven years of driving is a backing accident. I have an excellent service record. When I quit my last trucking job, my fleet manager wrote me and wrote "I'm very sorry to hear that we will be losing you." Also, another fleet manager called me when I quit and asked me what my company could do to keep me. I think I won't hang up my keys, and I'm NOT sorry!
     
  7. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Tail swing in that example isn’t a very big problem because in order for it to be a problem, you would have to be approaching a gate at an angle that would prevent you from getting through it anyway due to offtrack.
     
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  8. expedite_it

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    In the scenario I listed in the OP, with obstacles on both sides of the gate and further obstacles on the right hand side once I got past the gate, and with the position of the trailer being far to the left of the truck, the angle at which I entered the gate would determine whether or not it was possible for the rear of the trailer to hit the guard shack AFTER the tandems past the guard shack.
     
  9. Wasted Thyme

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    Had a guy who worked for my company. Same answer. Safety thought he was the safest driver. Never triggered the following distance flags. But he was actually always following at 4 seconds. Which was above the threshold. He ended up going through a SUV with a family of 4. Killing them all.

    So just because you've not had an accident. Doesn't mean you are a good diver. You could just be lucky and luck runs out. Just like it did for him. He's still in jail for vehicular manslaughter.
     
  10. expedite_it

    expedite_it Road Train Member

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    I was hoping you would chime in, MACK E-6.

    My response to your post #77: Well, I thought of the tail swing as benefitting me (if the tail swing had any effect at all) because the tail swing would be to the right. It was a left-hand (Counter-clockwise) U-turn.

    I hope you can help me with my question in post #60: Since I was turning to the left in the U-turn described in the OP, the rear of the trailer must have swung to the right when I slid the tandems forward and drive forward into the drop lot. Which factor made it so that I was able to finally get the rear of the trailer past the guard shack after I slid the tandems forward, the trailer swing to the right or the fact that there was less off-tracking with the tandems slid forward or both?
     
  11. expedite_it

    expedite_it Road Train Member

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    Just because I am trying to learn the effects of off-tracking and trailer swing better does not mean that I do not use proper following distance. Indeed, off tracking and trailer swing have nothing to do with following distance.

    For following distance, I keep 7 seconds of following distance on dry roads, and I keep 8 seconds of following distance on wet roads. If I am driving on an icy road, I will typically keep about 10 seconds of following distance until I shut down due to the weather.
     
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