Tandems are stuck.

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by honesttruth, Jan 6, 2023.

  1. honesttruth

    honesttruth Bobtail Member

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    So I have had this issue with my trailer (2020 Great Dane)since I got it. When there’s between 35 to 45,000 pounds I can’t slide my trailer tandems to save my life. I’ve chocked the tires adjusted the brakes lubed the crap out of the rails with every sort of lube recommended. And I still can’t move them. The pins completely go in also so I know it’s not that. When I try my truck will bog down and nothing happens. I’ll rock the truck drive the truck around and nothing. I’ve had it checked out and the mechanics tell me everything is fine. I’ve hooked up a different truck to it with the same weight and still couldn’t get it to move. I’ve read every forum and tried everything everyone says and still won’t move. I’m so tempted to put fifth wheel grease on the rails even though I know it’s bad but at this point idc. Does anyone have any other ideas and how bad is it if I put fifth wheel grease on the rails.
     
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  3. Jed2009

    Jed2009 Light Load Member

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    Don’t grease the rails. It’ll pick up all sorts of garbage and that grease is terribly sticky. I pull a 2000 and it slides around great. My biggest tip for actually sliding is to spray PB blaster right around and into the friction pad where it touches the slide rail. Usually my biggest problem is getting the pins to go in. You could try (CAREFULLY) to slowly roll forward or back and use the trailer brake to get them to pop loose and start the roll whichever direction you need to go. Also make sure you’re using absolute lowest gear. Lots of people start in 2nd. Make sure you use 1st. Someone else probably has better tips. Good luck.
     
  4. Terlingua

    Terlingua Medium Load Member

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    I agree with checking the gear. I had the same problem before I figured that one out. My truck sometimes likes to try starting out in 5th, which is too high to slide tandems and bogs it down. Shift it down to 1st.
     
  5. ducnut

    ducnut Road Train Member

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    Start with your tandems slid back roughly to where you think they might be close, before loading. You’re trying to overcome an awful lot of friction/stiction.

    If you’re 45K pounds on the tandems, I don’t see how you’d ever get the tandems far enough out from under the weight. That’s 11K pounds over. 11 X 4 (holes per 1K) = ~44 holes. There’s not that much rail available.
     
  6. 062

    062 Road Train Member

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    How about a pic of where you are applying lube... that sounds so wrong :oops:

    seriously I have seen a trailer that had grease on top of the slide rail.
     
  7. wichris

    wichris Road Train Member

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    Had one that sprayed grease on the outside of the rail.

    I'd check that it isn't pinched somewhere, not that GD ever screws up. LOL
     
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  8. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    I agree it is always easier to slide tandems before you get loaded. In my brief period pulling the awful reefer trailers 2020-2021 there seems to be more and more customers that require trailer tandems be slid to the rear of the trailer before they will load or unload a trailer. I don't know how long that has been going on. I NEVER saw that in my dry van OTR days in the 90s and 2000s. I don't know if that has been common practice for a long time with reefers or not.
     
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  9. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    I’ll second the PB blaster suggestion.

    One thing I would add is to get rolling forward or back a little and then pull the trolley valve. That might jar the tandem loose too.
     
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  10. wichris

    wichris Road Train Member

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    Doesn't work with air release.
     
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  11. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Yeah.... that’s true. We have maybe three of those in our entire fleet of several thousand.

    Did OP say whether or not his trailer was air release?
     
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