Tankers and scales?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by phroziac, Jul 25, 2010.

  1. phroziac

    phroziac Road Train Member

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    Ok. Most of our trailers are pretty old. Most of them are MC trailers. The time i overpowered them, it was probably just the first surge hitting it, but i jumped back in and set the trailer brakes. It probably wouldntve rolled.

    I've never crossed a DOT scale with a loaded trailer yet. Only one i even crossed, was a crappy one on US54 in illinois, that has no lights or led signs or anything, i put my steers on the scale, she said next, i put my drives on, she almost immediately said go ahead...i thought she said come around back so i parked and went in..LOL. :eek:

    we usually get weighed at customers and sometimes they hold us for ages. at rhodia in university park, we sit there for up to 20 minutes if no ones behind us. We get loaded, usually shipper will pull a sample before they bring us the papers. We go to get unloaded, usually they pull a sample before they unload. Samples are fun. I never would have believed my job would have involved pouring product from my trailer into a mason jar...haha. Getting them from the dome lid is even more fun. Stepan gives us a big dipper that we reach into the dome with, and then pour from that into a jar.
     
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  3. jakebrake12

    jakebrake12 Road Train Member

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    Wait till you cross the scales in Springfield, Va on 95.. They will hold you there till everything settles and they can get a weight - not exaggerating when I say they held me on the platform for two minutes which is an eternity only to give me the green light. They waited for the totes to settle all the way before they cut me loose..
     
  4. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    As far as the brakes never get out of any truck tanker or not that is not secured by brakes or tire blocks.

    We load liquid into our pneumatics, very rare for dot scales to mess with us, but once in a while they will let you sit till it settles. Normally they just want us out of the way. I'm goos with that.
     
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  5. end of the road

    end of the road Heavy Load Member

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    If your truck is moving with the brakes set you fail a DOT inspection. Actually if your wheel rotate at all because I suppose the tires could skid forward if there is enough force.
     
  6. jakebrake12

    jakebrake12 Road Train Member

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    My truck is stopped but the liquid in the totes keeps moving - brakes set and truck stays still but my drive axle fluctuates by a few thousand every second as the liquid moves.. No failed DOT inspection, just a real long time on the scales dude..
     
  7. Rollover the Original

    Rollover the Original Road Train Member

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    -The question on spring brakes (parking brakes) is it's a spec'ed thing. Cheap companies will only order one set on a tractor but 2 on a trailer. I'll order 2. Why take a chance?
    -Setting brakes on a tanker or actually a liquid load (500 gal totes) on a scale. Set the trailer first and let it settle down then the tractor to be secure!
    BUT when you get on any split axle scale(CAT) because you are NOT getting out of the truck just sit there for a minute till it settles down because as soon as you hit the button the weights are taken. This includes all loads! Or just set the trailer brakes and the tractor will settle down along with the trailer. But, I never just reach out and punch the call button until the scale has stopped rocking!
    And NEVER get out of a truck without the brakes set. EVER! Those brakes could be out of adjustment! Chasing a truck on foot has to be way down on the fun scale but high on the stress scale!
     
  8. Truck Driver

    Truck Driver Medium Load Member

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    I've never been held up at a scale so they could get my axle weight. It would be the most asinine experience of my life. I know a driver that went through that with a smooth bore for a half hour before they finaly let him go out of frustration. It takes me about 15 minutes to get a somewhat accurate axle weight on a cat scale and thats sitting still. If they want me to weigh each axle separatly they might as well close the scale behind me.
     
  9. GasHauler

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    I'm glad I hauled gasoline. Believe it or not we hardly ever felt any surge. Of course our tanks have compartments with baffles in them but even a half loaded compartment is barely felt. But it doesn't matter to us where we are if we get away from the controls of the truck the brakes are set NO MATTER WHAT.

    Phroziac you talk about seals and samples. It's that way for us when we haul jet fuel. Especially for the Air Force or Navy. If the seals are broken you might just as well take the load back because it will be rejected. Where I was at we didn't have to do any of that because there was a pipeline that went straight to the places it needed to go. But in San Diego there's a driver that bids that shift that does nothing but haul jet fuel to the airport. He makes about 8 to 9 loads a day and he won't give it up because he likes it so well. You guys can have those tanks that you have to washout and gear up to load and unload. In my opinion you're not paid enough.
     
  10. Jfaulk99

    Jfaulk99 Road Train Member

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    If slamming on the brakes on a set of scales throws them out of calibration, the scales are junk. I've got a 80' Mettler Toldeo platform scale at my shop and the load cells are not affected by the truck stopping. There are blocks and spacers on the ends of the platform to keep the scale from moving more than what's allowed. Regardless of what the shipper tells you the load cells are VERY tough (which is why the scale cost almost $30k) and stopping hard isn't going to kill a scale. They make scales that can weigh a trucks axle weight up to 50k each, up to 75mph and measure the axle spacing all without stopping, so don't believe stopping hard is an issue. Also if a shipper is getting a gross weight on a moving load they should have had the scales set up for it. Ours has an option for "moving loads" such as livestock that will NEVER stop moving.
     
  11. Kiviknon

    Kiviknon Light Load Member

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    Seems like they would just grab a steer axle and a gross weight and send you on the way.
     
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