Teaching myself to drive end dumps, couple questions

Not much to end dumps.
Take your time when driving in the dumps and quarries.
Never dump until you check the area out especially at the dump for soft ground.
24' boxes aren't as long as the 34' or the 38' I ran but they'll still tip if you're not careful.

 

The main thing with the end dump is keep the lowest center of gravity. Be careful when dumping on soft ground where the rear axles could sink in unevenly. Don't let material build up in the front of the box which will make it top heavy when you dump. Don't dump on a side hill and if you are spreading material only raise the box enough to keep material against the tailgate so you can maintain an even spread.

The 13 speed is a great transmission. When you are empty you may only need the high side of it, depending on the ground you are on and what the ratio of the rear ends is. I rarely use the clutch after I get it moving unless I am off road or on a hard pull. And that depends on how fast you need to shift.

Another little secret to a 13 speed is that when you are in the high side of the gear box (5-13) you will find that there is a secret gear in the compound low hole. An example would be going around a corner in 5th gear and realizing that you need a little lower gear. Rather than shifting the transmission into the low side, your can roll it over into the "Low" gear hole which is lower than 5th and maybe a little higher than 4th. I never use this gear on a long pull. You may have noticed the big split between 4th & 5th gear.

Sometimes I use all the gears when shifting down and using the jake. Other times I may drop a whole gear. The same holds true when up shifting. I think that knowing what gear you are in is the hardest thing when you are new to a 13 speed or any transmission that you split the gears. You are young and it will become second nature and you will not even think, it wil be automatic.

Congradulations on the cram course. It must have made for a very interesting trip home. You will have a great story to tell when the time comes.

Keep on trucking,
MAG

 

Mag pretty much covered it, but I can add a little to it on the dump side
when you dump in the landfill, back up and then pull forward following the same tire tracks of your trailer, that will compact the material a bit more but not much, remember to take the truck out of gear and s set the trailer brake if you dont and start to raise the box the material will come out and SHOVE you QUIKLY! and thats baaaad very bad now for the "pucker part" is usually stage 1-3. and at the very top
lets cover 1-3. when you engage the pto and start to raise the trailer, look thru the back window and watch the ram as it goes up. stages 1-2 -3 are the the most likely to go over when you are going up and the ram is crooked to left or right. remember to keep your foot on the brake or set the trailer brake it must go up vertical ! if it doesnt the trailer is gonna take a nap so keep your hand on the lever if its goin up crooked slam it down (the handle)and readjust the truck and trailer so you are on flat ground and try again, now when its going up straight go all the way
get it all the way to 5th stage, keep your foot on the brake and release the palm valve, the matreial wil star to come out and want to push you forward. put the truck in LOW gear and start pulling forward, now watch your mirrors watch your tires, can you see lite under them?? if so you're probably gonna lay it over, YOU WANT NO LITE UNDER YOUR TIRES keep your hand on that lever to drop it down as soon as you see a problem as soon as you are empty drop it down and get off the tipping deck DONT GET OUT AND LOOK at your load and trailer to be sure its empty. theres people behind you waiting to dump too
Now when is the next harriest time when you are dumping you ask??
well im glad you asked
its when you get mud or soft dirt stuck in the " nose" of the trailer, the dirt is almost always stuck in the very front of the box and its in there unevenly so it will cause the trailer to sway while you are pulling foward and then gravity takes over,thats when disaster hits. when this does happen and it will I gauranteee it dont panic just drop the lever down drop the box back down walk back and take a look in the box, see what the deal is, and if theres mud or dirt stuck DONT BE LAZY grab the shovel and get it out of there. Once its loose you can dump it or wait till the next round. BUT keep an eye on the nose and whats in there.
Now, what about when you see the trailer going over for a nap??
well im glad you asked
DONT try to bail out, STAY INSIDE THE TRUCK ITS THE SAFEST PLACE FOR YOU TO BE, itll all be over in a few seconds, just hold on to the wheel. and when its all over, just pick up the cell and call whoever,to let them know what happened, and they will get help out you.
AND THE MOST IMPORTANT RULE OF ALL................... NEVER! EVER !
DUMP WITH ANYONE CLOSE AROUND YOU. KEEP AT LEAST 30 FT SIDE TO SIDE SO IF YOU DO LAY IT OVER YOU DONT KILL SOMEONES SON OR DAUGHTER AND THIS NO BULSHITT ive seen a guy loose his life cuz the spotter in the landfill was to stupid to realize the trucks were to close together.
And dont be rushed by anyone when you're dumping fug em! Make them wait its ok take your time! go slow, and if the deck looks ####tty to you where you where you are about to are dump make them back drag so its nice and clean.
There is a saying in our bussiness...............................
THOSE THAT HAVE AND THOSE THAT WILL
enddump is a serious game my freind, its a lot of fun but its a huge responsibilty. dont take it lightly.
ok big straper, i didnt mean to go on so long but i hope this helps.
Good luck and God Bless

 

the answer is yes, release the tractor brake, and set the trailer brake and as the ram goes up it will pull you back twards the tandems,

Barn door config. is good for demo, concrete etc. just open that door swing and chain it back and you're done.
If you can fab a swing up gate make sure it opens high enuf to clear the demo when it comes out
remember to only load rail high, wet the load at the plant or demo site, and tarp the load before you go ,oh yeah and when you dump NO CELL PHONE YAPPIN NO CB YAPPIN NO NEXTEL YAPPIN! CONCENTRATE ON ON THE DUMP when you get done talk all you want you dont need any distractions while you are dumpng all right thats it Now GO TO WORK
Good luck