Texas: Major win for possible $30 billion dollar bullet train

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  1. RockinChair

    RockinChair Road Train Member

    Because using taxpayer dollars to forcefully confiscate private property and give it to a taxpayer-subsidized corporation, while subjecting the displaced landowners to taxation on the proceeds from the forced sale of their properties, is a bad idea.
     
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  3. Magoo1968

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    Many won’t want to take a 160 mph train ride imo
     
  4. skallagrime

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    So you ignored the question asked in favor of answering the one you wanted to.

    Why? They like doing 80mph plus only half paying attention to the road, why is going faster in a safer manner where they can just completely dial into their phone worse?
     
  5. buzzarddriver

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    If Alaska can have a bridge to nowhere, why can't Texas have a train no one rides?
     
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  7. Lazer

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    Moving passengers has historically, long term, has been a money loser. The railroads failed when they were ‘king’. Airlines have always been on the verge of bankruptcy even with governments building the airports for them. The reason passenger service is marginal at best is because; passengers complain. Everything is an issue, cancelled routes, changing depart times, too crowded, too hot, too cold, every complaint leads to a ‘claim’. Claims mean refunds. Pallets of freight don’t complain, they can sit on a dock for hours/days. Other than damage, freight doesn’t complain.
     
  8. JoeyJunk

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    This right here.
     
  9. RockinChair

    RockinChair Road Train Member

    Nope, I answered your question. I just assumed you understood that "a train aleviating traffic on a ridiculously busy highway" would require the negative things that I listed since the State of Texas isn't smart enough to build it as an elevated railway over the existing center median of I-45 (for which they already possess ROW).
     
  10. skallagrime

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    "Im fine with plenty of counterarguements of the proposed current way its being done"

    You act as if there is only one method that is possible for aquiring the land, and thats the current plan, no other way could ever happen. Thats simply not true.

    Ive frequently thought doing an elevated rail along the median of a highway would make sense, but consider 3 scenarios that make that unwise.
    A. Train derailment
    B. Semi strikes elevating piers
    C. Wartime, airstrike

    In all those cases you have a single event that could shut down your only throughway on that corridor. This makes elevated rail along a throughway unattractive except for urban areas, there it not only makes sense, but there will be plenty of alternative routes.

    Couple this with the fact that instead of doing it themselves, theyre looking at an outside company to build and manage it, its better to have them completely seperate geographically.

    Lets say the time horizon is tomorrow, 3-5x fair market value as the starting place seems reasonable, people hate emminent domain because whatever they SAY about giving fair market value, it tends to be closer to half of real market rates.

    But lets say that this is a well planned proposal. that is to say that construction shall start 30 years from now, is THAT an unreasonable time-frame for land aquisition now?

    So i again ask, is aleviating traffic on a busy corridor a bad idea? Is your contention that less traffic will start flowing as time goes on without supplemental infrastructure? Thats a reasonable possibility, though highly unlikely as i see it
     
  11. skallagrime

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    Lets not pretend that every buisness failure is the fault of the customers instead of structural problems with the company and reliance on being subsidised and therefore refusing to charge enough to cover real cost (a frequent problem with passenger rail, it is and was regulated so that trains were not allowed by law to charge as much as they wanted/needed)

    You cant tell me that walmart is failing because its customers complain, and ohh boy do they complain. No, if a complaint is enough of a cost, they charge enough to fix the problem.
     
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