The website says 3 feet extensions both front and back.
The rear extension from the factory are 6 feet long. 3 feet of the total 6 foot extension hangs past the trailer end, making it a "3 foot extension".
The front extension is 3 foot long and hangs 22 inches past the trailer end which means its only a "22 inch extension"
It is a 51 foot trailer. I asked the manager before we walked over to the trailer if that means it will be 57 feet overall trailer that will be able to carry 4 cars and he replied that what I said was correct.
I realize that all the hotshot trailers out there are subpar and have to be checked with a fine tooth comb before pulling out of the dealerships.
Texas Pride review.
Discussion in 'Expediter and Hot Shot Trucking Forum' started by 24kHotshot, Oct 2, 2019.
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So the reason I've been going back and forth with you on this topic is because my brother put his order in for the exact same 3 car wedge that you have back in November of last year. He opted for some upgrades that weren't on the stock trailer though, such as hydraulic front landing gear, aluminum wheels, a kingpin, and additional lighting. I helped him spec out his trailer and his sales rep was very clear with us that the extension only increased the length approximately 2ft upfront and 2ft in the rear. We asked if they could make them longer, after checking with an engineer he said absolutely not because it would weaken them. I'm confused because if you had picked your trailer up in person, after having such a bad experience with them the first time with all the problems, I would have expected that you would have gone over something so simple as what the extensions looked like when they were out. Not busting your balls, but considering how specific they were with us and our build, I don't know if your story (at least in regards to that issue) is only one sided. Just saying my friend. I'm not a TPT customer, but the only thing I didn't care for was how they painted everything like you said. It was a pain to move some of the parts because it looked like they just painted over things like D- Rings.
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True, but I told them my truck was a '93 with no abs. Would of rather used the center pin than run a 2nd line..
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This is what I know of the light/medium duty trailer world..
PJ trailer, stand for Peter & Jake Thiessen. Load Trail/Max used to be operated by their brother, Cornelius Thiessen who has since passed away. I think Jake took it over. I was unaware of the ICE raids, but from around 2013, 2014 their quality started downhill. Could be from this "new labor force" I guess they were hiring from south of the border..?
If you look at a PJ, Load Trail/Max side by side they are identical. The only difference is PJ uses a tube side rail, Load Max uses c channel side rail..
Kaufman, Appalachian, & Quality look to use almost all the same build design as I see them.
Don't know much about Big Tex as I've never been interested in them.
TPT seems to knock off designs from a few builders. Their wedge looks like big tex 20AC with heavier axles.
TPT 4car stacker is a Kaufman easy 4, again with heavier running gear.
TPT 5car, another Kaufman, mini5 again with heavier running gear..
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My theory is that they all buy their plans from the same engineering companies. Kind of like house builders. Probably a company of engineers puts our schematics and sells them to manufactures. That way they are pre-certified by a PE and some of the liability of the design is taken off their hands. This gives the trailer manufactures the ability to make minor changes (larger running gear, more lighting, different pumps and features) without altering anything that is overly structural. Make the lawyers happy.
So, I just did a quick google search for trailer plans and this came up. Looks like they are readily available, claiming "engineer stamped" in the title: Trailer Plans And Blueprints - Engineer-Approved Plans | The Trailer Parts Outlet -
The website says the extensions are 3 feet. The sales rep said 3 feet. I didn't have a tape measure to measure them when I picked it up. I wrongly assumed TPT was high quality because of the higher prices. I thought the first trailer was just a lemon and badly put together. I didnt think a wedge would have any issues because of no moving parts.
I went in to this business with no past experience at all. I didnt know what to look for. I never owned a trailer before these 2. I made the mistake of not knowing better.
I bet after their experience with me they are a lot clearer because I sat and argued for 12 hours with the first trailer and a bunch more hours for the second one built with more issues. I pointed out the short extensions. I also pointed out that they sent me on my way with 16 inch rims which means the trailer was not legally 26k lb rating without the 17.5 rims on.
I got pictures backing up every claim I made in this thread.
I don't know what else to tell you except they charge a premium for subpar build quality. Oh, and any problem you might have they will find a way to make it your fault. Just like they said I overloaded the first trailer but wouldn't tell me how much weight would be overloading it. -
Again, I can't blame you for being upset with a product that wasn't what you expected, but to need a tape measure to see the difference between 22" and 36" is pretty strange my friend. Also, Texas Pride stuff doesn't appear to be more expensive than other, actually it looks to be much cheaper than other brands by a big margin. I've always thought they were the Sams club of trailers vs something super expensive. To be honest, I feel like you are just one of those folks who complains if everything's not perfect when you buy a product. I know in a perfect world we want everything manufactured to be perfect (get what you pay for), but your very first post showed that you were going back for a REFUND and not to get the problem fixed. Seriously bro, who buys something that big and expensive and gets a refund when they take it back, I'd like to buy a trailer from that manufacturer, shoot, even one that would swap me for another trailer. It sounds like they offered to recondition the trailer but you turned them down out of frustration. Dude, when I got my first class 7 truck, I had a fuel system issue with the Cummins within the first 3 days. I didn't expect them to refund me for the whole #### truck. It sat in at Freightliner for 4 days getting worked on. Was it a big inconvenience, sure, did it piss me off? sure, but there was no way in hell they would have swapped me into a new truck simply because I complained.
You didn't make the mistake of not knowing any better, you made the mistake of not doing your research, not looking at other configurations, not checking out the products before you purchased them both, not doing an inspection of a high priced trailer, not taking a tape measure, not using Google to find out more information, not researching competitors, and diving into a profession you didn't research enough. Again, just pointing out the facts brother.
It's almost like you bought the trailer sight unseen and decided to open your eyes after you were hours away from the place that built it.
I get that you weren't happy with the final product, but seriously bro, all brands of trailers are made by hand with hundreds of folks touching them. Someone fudged up on wiring, someone overshot some paint, someone designed it a way you may not like. These are all small issues. Welcome to trucking. When you have a fuel system go out or a mechanical issue, you'll see what it's like watching your rig sit at a Diesel shop for a month with nobody doing crap to it. See how you react when that happens my friend. We all complained about the ELD mandate but we all had to get over it right? Some didn't, but you adapt and overcome. 12 years in Army Airborne taught me that.
This is a good lesson for you. But guess what, you're likely to get this same lesson from ANY trailer manufacture if you approach the purchase the same way you did this one.
And in my book, when they claim you overloaded the trailer, that means over the GVWR. Also, 10 ply 16" trailer tires (LR E) have a 3440lb per tire rating. Even though they didn't match your sticker, the combined payload is OVER 27,000lbs making them easily able to meet the DOT requirements for you 26K GVWR trailer. You typed that they only put them on because you rushed them. Then you followed up by saying that installed brand new 17.5" wheels and tires to fix the issue. Again bro, you sound like one of "those" buyers.Last edited: Feb 7, 2020
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I guess if you ordered a $30 rare steak and it came to the table crispy black you would just eat it.
The man made some mistakes but the trailer was not build correctly and it should have been fixed or replaced. However the company knows that it can drag its feet and keep the money because there is very little recourse that most people have the time or money to pursue as a resolution. So I applaud the OP for taking the time to show the problems with the trailer and at the same time show he made some mistakes also.
I am one of "those" buyers. I spend my hard earned money on a product the product should be built correctly not just built near enough.clausland and 24kHotshot Thank this. -
Brother, comparing a $30 steak to a $15k-$20k trailer is apples to gold plated oranges. Not a real way of comparing. A trailer can be fixed and he clearly pointed out on his original post that they offered to go over the entire thing and overhaul it. So your "fix it" choice of "fix or replace it" was offered. He stated he was so angry and went back wanting a "refund". I didn't see that in your choice list.
I've had my fair share of problems with my PJ trailer and my rig but none of them required the "resolution" he was looking for. Didn't seam like he cared to get them to fix it, he wanted money back. That's not something dealers do. That's a hard less, so might as well fix it and get on. Demanding stuff they won't do is futile. -
That's a single tire rating, when its a dual tire rating it is 3000 lb each which means I was at 24k lb total dual tandem rating with the tires they gave.
Even with a higher rating tire:
Capacity:
- Load range: E
- Ply rating: 10
- Maximum load: 3,640 lbs at 95 psi
- Dual tire applications: 3,200 lbs at 95 psi
You did that same exact thing comparing a $20k trailer to a class 7 truck. Something as "simple" as a trailer shouldn't have so much wrong with it.
I wanted a refund, but settled for a wedge that costs less than the first trailer. I wasn't focusing on the extensions or the crap paint job, I was focusing at the bad welds that nearly cut the brake lines or wheels that didn't match the ratings on the VIN which I got a warning for at a weight station.
Yes I am "that buyer". When I buy a $21k brand new trailer I expect it to be in safe working condition which they weren't. If your brother's new trailer has nothing wrong with it it is because "that buyer" opened the company's eyes to their screw ups. General manager at TPT was on my side after he saw the condition of both my trailers otherwise he would have just sent me away. Yes I was angry having to drive 1500 miles back to texas to have things fixed that shouldn't have been wrong in the first place.
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