The American Dream, is it still possible?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Disgruntledriver, Oct 28, 2014.

  1. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    I sure wouldn't depend on California produce as a major part of my income. That state is drying up for lack of water and getting worse. Scientists think the drought may last another 30 years or longer. Some idiot city/town officials are even fining people for not watering their lawns while other municipalities are fining people that do water their lawns. The whole state is screwed up.

    Farm2Fleet is another one to look at; they specialize in dry van freight and you pick your loads.

    If you move to another state, consider one with no personal income taxes such as Nevada or Texas. There's good trucking in both states. Reno is booming, but Las Vegas has better year round weather. Which ever state you choose, contact the company you would like to lease on to and ask if they can keep you busy in that particular state.
     
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  3. joseph1135

    joseph1135 Papa Murphy

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    Getting some good snow in NorCal this weekend.
     
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  4. Disgruntledriver

    Disgruntledriver Light Load Member

    Thank you folks, some great responses. I was actually thinking about that earlier today, about how if I could just get my own truck and the feeling of it being MY truck (that no one else can touch), MY hard work for ME going back into MY own business and a bit more of that "my own boss" feeling even though of course being leased out you answer to some one, there's no denying you are more of your own boss than a company driver. So yes, I was thinking that to start out, buying a truck then leasing out to the company I'm with. They say they need port drivers in the area, owner operators right now. Sounds like it would work great for now and as I get more knowledge I'm sure better opportunities may present themselves. Whenever I know I'm doing something directly involving me, I tend to get WAY more dedicated and serious about it and I'm already pretty decent at what I do. I'm no Einstein but I'm no idiot either, I realize it involves hard work, but what I'm doing right now is hard work and it's a feeling like it's going into some one else's pockets. I like that idea some one else mentioned, business owners have told me as well, that when you work hard for yourself it's a much better feeling, knowing the sky is the limit and that hard work can build you an empire in good time. I dunno, having a small property in the country just outside of town some where with a home with a truck parked beside it just, seems like it would suit me.

    I appreciate the replies. I really would like to do this and I know there is more research to be done.

    Let's say I was a owner operator out of here for awhile, is it terribly difficult for OO's to change location once they've gone at it for a year or two and built themselves up just a tad bit? Or is relocation difficult? Although, as many have said I would love to travel the I-5 corridor. Also, once you finance the truck, if you lease out for awhile is it difficult once you want to start going more independent to go out and finance a trailer? I'm not sure if the banks see that as getting to many costs and overhead racked up.
     
  5. rollin coal

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    Yeah they say they need o/o at the ports but you'd never think it by the poor rates that kind of work pays. Being your own boss is great. If you thrive on challenges and twice the workload with half the sleep and bloodshot eyes. That's how we roll. Freedom.
     
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  6. Chinatown

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    That's true. Big problem with California ports are wait times to get into the port to get a container or drop off a container. Four to 6 hours is normal & sometimes 8 hours with no detention pay and no idleing the truck. You can blame the Longshoremans union for those long waits;they don't care, they get paid no matter what.
     
  7. jdrentzjr

    jdrentzjr Road Train Member

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    That's impossible! To quote our president, "You didn't build that". So how could you? :biggrin_255:
     
  8. DrivingForceBehindYou

    DrivingForceBehindYou Medium Load Member

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    You know what. Let them stay there for a day for free in a hot cab. I would definitely not change a thing if I was paying those drivers and they agreed to it.
    I bet those companies could charge them rent and the suckers would still work there. Now that's someone you could explain the concept of American dream.
     
  9. mc8541ss

    mc8541ss Road Train Member

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    Let me start by saying that I have NEVER been to the ports in California but if they are like the ones in Houston I wouldn't want to put my just purchased truck in them every day. I have to go to them but when I do it is slow and easy. All the trucks working them on a regular basis seem to be falling apart and the oilfields or farm would be the high life for those trucks.
     
  10. Disgruntledriver

    Disgruntledriver Light Load Member

    Would most consider Short Haul to be stuff within a... I dunno, 600ish mile range from home? I've heard some owner operators talk about how they never spend more than a night away from home. I even heard one talk of how he would work for two days (Go to point B, spend the night, return to point A) then take a day off, rinse and repeat. Do such things exist? What about regional, home daily opportunities? Do all OO's work 12+ hour days before going home if they are on a "home daily basis"? And again I ask, is it hard to relocate if you are a independent OO?

    Thanks again for all the help and knowledge folks.
     
  11. Blu_Ogre

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    Short Haul can be defined in many ways. I would suggest looking @ the number of nights away from home as a guideline.

    Centered from LA basin; good paying freight that delivers less than 5 hours out is a rarity so a home every night gig would be a challenge. Yuma, Vegas maybe PHX depending on SoCal Traffic. Problem with Phx is not much truck load comes out.

    At that point you are looking @ around 500 mile max trip length to ensure you can pick up and run to drop same day or first thing in morning. Then repeat the other way. Thinking: SF Bay area, Sacramento, Reno, And Tuscon/Nogales. Perhaps a triangle route.

    If you start looking in the 600 to 800 mile range: that opens up SLC, Northern Cali and Boise. Triangles may be more easy to set up. LA -> SLC -> Reno/SF -> LA or reverse could be a 3 to 4 night loop.

    The hard part is finding consistent freight that pays a reasonable amount. You will be bidding against the Majors cariers and the lowballers. Many of the Major cariers have western region fleets and Even CNA (Cali, NV, AZ) fleets.

    Relocation: As an OO Relocation is not a problem. The obvious is to look to locate near a place with a good volume of freight. One of the expenses that we all need to keep in check is deadhead miles.
     
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