The Anti-Lease Purchase Program

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by BigBadBill, Apr 10, 2012.

  1. jjranch

    jjranch Road Train Member

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    We own our truck but dont have a trl, would be interested in the trl portion and your creiteria and vetting process
     
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  3. BigBadBill

    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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    As you know it is an area that you need to know to run in well. Send me an email with specific areas and I can check what actual rates are. I have learned to stop saying an area doesn't work because I have a driver that is happy running himself from GA to FL and back.
     
  4. BigBadBill

    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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    From the beginning we have been selling trailers to our drivers. A much better deal than renting from me. We will rent but you pay a lot more per week and will do that as long as you are driving.

    Right now we look at a 3-year straight purchase on trailers that are less than 10k but looking at offering the option of getting a newer trailer in the 16k range.
     
  5. DrtyDiesel

    DrtyDiesel Road Train Member

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    What about coming out of Florida and back?

    Ethan
     
  6. gravdigr

    gravdigr Road Train Member

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    First I want to say I have been reading Bills posts since I started on this board and I personally trust him.

    I'm loving this idea. My only problem is I want to run flatbed but lack training. I've been looking at CRST Malone which is a bit like your setup ie no qualcomm, no dispatcher, pick your own loads. But they offer flatbed training.

    If you could suggest a third party flatbed training program you would be comfortable with I'm sure I would impress you. How much capitol would you suggest to have set back before starting this? Is $5k enough?

    How do you pick the trucks? Could a driver request what he is looking for then you try to find it?

    I love the idea and would like to talk with you more about it as I'm going to be changing my driving direction come august one way or another.
     
  7. gravdigr

    gravdigr Road Train Member

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    Also a few questions which I don't know if you can answer on an open forum...

    What % of linehaul do you pay?

    Is 100% of the fsc passed on to the driver?

    How do you pay the driver, and how often?

    Is there a fuel credit provided for each load? Do you provide a fuel card?

    How do drivers turn in their bills?

    What kind of fixed costs are we looking at?

    I guess a lot of this is covered under the lease. But I like the ides that you don't want these trucks back. You want these drivers on the road making money.
     
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  8. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    beat me to it......
     
  9. BigBadBill

    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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    Sorry all for delays. Super busy. Will get to all tomorrow.
     
  10. Katz

    Katz Medium Load Member

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    Do you have room for another O/O in your flatbed fleet?:biggrin_255: I'd be bombarding you with PMs and Emails if I lived closer to your area.


    One commend I'd like to add, I wouldn't overlook prospective O/Os' credit reports. It probably gives you a good idea of his/her spending habits.

    It doesn't matter how much you can earn, if an O/O blows money on toys, he/she will go broke when an inevitable event happens. All you gotta do is look at our government - smarts (though I question "smarts" of those politicians) don't necessarily correlate to good financial management skills.

    A couple of credit cards (incl. cards from Sears, Amazon, etc) maxed out on the credit report would raise a red flag for me. That may not be necessarily a deal breaker, but the prospective better have a good explanation.

    I'd say this is especially true for the first time O/Os. Temptation to treat yourself with a new toy gets very high when you realize how quickly you can accumulate $10k, until you realize sometimes the business can consume $10k quicker than you can earn.
     
  11. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    Jeez ain't that the truth....

    Did a project at work on a machine....

    The price tag....$250,000.

    The ROI, 6 months.

    Cost of my screw up....$58,000 for submitting the wrong quote I had before figuring out the correct information.

    Cost to correct it....lost the original $58,000 in custom parts and had to order the correct parts at $58,000.

    How did the buyer handle it....

    Shrugged his shoulders and said, "That's business" and dumped the spray nozzles into the recycle bin in never opened packaging.....
     
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