Cummins, Detroit, or Cat. Pulling flatbed which of these would be preferable, or which has the most upside. Looking for power, mileage, and reliability. Just looking for some input from owner op flatbedders.
The battle of engines
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Battle Born, May 6, 2014.
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NOT an O/O but my opinoin
Cat Great pulling power, good reliabiliyt, 4-5.5 MPG from what i have heard
Cummins good power, good reliabilyt decent MPG 6 MPG from what i have heard
Detroit depends on what motor, S60 is what i would get, good milage 6+, good reliabiliyt, and can make great power -
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Your not the first person to ask this question on this board nor will you be the last. Engines are like fruit, not every one will like one over the other, it really boils down to your taste.
That being said, what you should mention is your driving preference. The torque of the engine is in different locations. Cats are fairly low rpms at about 1200 - 1450? Dont quote me on this as I missed this in the class I was taking (too many instructors at same time). Detroits (at least the ones I learned on) 1300-1700. Cummins (it was getting erased when I got back to class) ................ Some one will have to weigh in on this that runs a Cummins.
What does the torque area mean? That is the window of most efficient use. If you hit the high side you upshift, get to the low end of the torque area downshift and so forth. Again it depends on how you drive.
Some drivers really like the torque down low and love the groan of the Cat. Myself I like the mid range and will stick with Detroit. The other thing is, since there are more Detroits out there, there are also more shops set up to service Detroits. While Cats and Cummins are a popular engine, there are weird things that some mechanics may not care for / avoid. Cummins requires shims to put the valve cover back in place. Cats have to have injectors that are made in the USA, the ones made from Mexico are cheap and fail quickly. As posted above the Cat isnt an easy engine to service. A more difficult service means more shop cost and more money out of your pocket when something breaks. Something to be wary of. -
Its hard to say, a lot goes in too this question. Year of engine is important, I have an 06' Cat 475hp C15. I run a 3.25 rear and 18spd trans. With my set up I have great pulling power while maintaining good fuel mileage. I run 65mph usually, my lifetime average is 7.3mpg. Average load 35k +. The only major problem I have had was the head cracked after the water pump failed. Ive done an injector and 3 intake actuators so far at 691,000mi.
Im happy with this engine. My mpg comes from my gear and tranny set up though. -
Well, I'm not going to push the speed limits or set land speed records. 65-68 would be preferable, and as long as I can pull a hill good and get good mileage, I'm happy as hell. I grew up on detroits with my dad hauling for dart, and he hauled gravel with a BC Cummins. I've pulled flats and rgn with cat motors, so I know them pretty well. I love their power, just wanna know what, as an O/O would be most cost efficient while getting the job done. I like how the Detroit is cheaper to maintain. I've been looking between 2000-2004 trucks for emissions, but I hear Detroit has stayed pretty decent with this new def bs and all that.
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Detroit 12.7 parts supplies availability and great reputation at decent power/consumption
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I'm hearing the MBN series of cat is about the last before the emissions? Or is that the 6Nz?
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