The case of a case of beer in the Semi Truck

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by No1Packerfan, Dec 22, 2010.

  1. afterburn25

    afterburn25 Medium Load Member

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    come on now we have all had a few at the end of our shift from time to time. after i have been driving all day and i decide to shut down i find it helps to relax me and i fall right to sleep i certainly cant put down more then 2 beers before i just collapse into dream world. hell that isn't even enough to get a buzz much less a hangover as far as drinking more then that i only do that when i know ill be shut down for a couple of days its a weekend and cant get loaded till monday hell yeah party is on but i usually don't do it in the truck i go hit the town. wanna talk about grey areas i know a guy that happened to took a cab out to go to the club got drunk came back to truck passed out in sleeper dot showed up got him for dui why? cause it was 20 degrees out side and his truck was idling

    seriously trucks are different then cars the same laws should apply differently to trucks the law says if your keys are in ignition that is intent to drive but when are keys not in ignition on a truck when were out of vehicle is the only time.
    if your idling and your log book shows off duty and you completed your day with a post trip what right there shows you couldnt drive that truck if you wanted to your log just wont allow it your done for the day your truck becomes your home at that point.

    besides how often you hear about trucks causing accidents from drinking how many from cars i rest my case
     
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  3. SHO-TYME

    SHO-TYME Road Train Member

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    Why do you think there are regulations like this? Because drivers WERE drinking and driving behind the wheel of a CMV, and suprisingly, it still happens today.
     
  4. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    Installing a keyless idle or remote start system would solve that problem. Either way, the truck could be idling without the keys in the ignition...
     
  5. afterburn25

    afterburn25 Medium Load Member

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    yes it does but as i recall it has always been illegal to operate a commercial vehicle while under the influence. the same people that have no respect for the law will keep doing it no matter what the laws are so by making it harder for us responsible drivers to have a beer or two after our shift does nothing to stop the real problem politicians are so stupid.

    somehow i doubt it will solve anything cause i know dot wont care if keys are in ignition or not if truck can idle without keys they will still try to say you had intent to drive.
     
  6. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    The vehicle is incapable of being driven without the keys. If you placed the keys in the battery box or clipped them to the oil dipstick, they are not even in the cab of the truck with you. Obviously, you had no intent to drive and any lawyer worth his fees would make the officer look foolish in court trying to argue that you did.
     
  7. marmonman

    marmonman Road Train Member

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    I have never heard of a law that stopped anything .
    We have speed laws and still there are speeders,we have gun laws and still there are gun crimes , we have laws against stealing and still we have thefts.

    I think there should be a law against making new laws until all the old ones work .
     
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  8. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    That doesn't apply when off duty .#
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    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regu...fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=392.5&guidence=Y
     
  9. nekiteflyer52

    nekiteflyer52 Bobtail Member

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    YOU CAN'T EVEN HAVE UNOPENED ALCOHOL IN YOUR OUTSIDE TOOL BOXES - PERIOD!!! If you do not have a BOL, you can't have it in your trailer, either.
     
  10. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    The thread is over a year old. The rule says you can't have any alcohol over .5% anywhere on the truck but there is an exception. That is when you are offduty and using the truck for personal conveyance or personal use. Someone has already posted that directly from the regulation interpretations. Here it is again.


    Like the OP getting in trouble he was laden but parked. But he had to get there somehow and it was while he was on-duty.

    Now the offduty thing one has to take into consideration state laws. States like VA you can't even have over two bottles of wine in your trunk without a permit. Other states the minimum quantity is greater.
     
  11. crzyjarmans

    crzyjarmans Road Train Member

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    Unless laws have changed, You can not have any alcohol in a CMV, and yes this includes side box, and if you have any alcohol in the trailer, you'd better have a BOL for the product, a friend for mine who works a local job here in Las Vegas, about 8-10 years bake had huge fine, for putting a bottle of wine, he had picked it up on the way back to his companies yard, it was to be a gift for his mother, simply not worth it, on a second note, don't know why some drivers need to drink 5, 6, 7 beers a night, Please don't say this doesn't happen, see drivers heading back to their trucks all the time with 6 packs or cases, when they get caught, its hard to feel bad, Bumpy, it shows you to have 13 years experience? are you not aware of the laws on alcohol and CMV's?
     
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