The correct way to merge in a construction zone?

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  1. RockinChair

    RockinChair Road Train Member

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    I'm not missing yours, I'm addressing an overarching point which you are ignoring.

    I assume some of the eastbound traffic is stopped in the intersection? You failed to specify, but for the sake of discussion we will assume that such is the case.

    If Driver A cannot proceed all the way through the intersection without stopping then Driver A should remain stationary until Driver A can enter and proceed all the way through the intersection without stopping. The fact that Driver A's light turned green is irrelevant.

    If you don't agree with me, ask your friendly local police officer whether or not the eastbound traffic that stopped in the intersection could be cited for failure to yield ROW once the northbound traffic light turned green. And also ask the officer if Driver A could also be cited for failure to yield ROW if (s)he entered the intersection (and then stopped) as soon as the light turned green thus preventing the eastbound traffic on Driver A's left that had already crossed into the intersection from clearing the intersection.



    As soon as he sees that sign he should begin looking for a place in which to merge. Once he finds a place, he should merge into that place as soon as it is safe to do so. The object is to maintain the flow and pace of traffic through the merge zone and beyond. People who run up to the endpoint and then force their way over cause everyone who has already merged to have to slow down, thus undermining the effort to maintain the flow of traffic.

    See above.
     
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  3. Another Canadian driver

    Another Canadian driver Road Train Member

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    Fortunately the rocket scientists don't have road constructions to include in their equations.
    Unless Milky Way is under construction again.
    God helps us all if that happens.
     
  4. PaulMinternational

    PaulMinternational Road Train Member

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    I am not ignoring it. Just haven’t focussed on it. Reading back a little and you will see.

    I treat intersections like railway crossings, if I can’t clear them I don’t move till I can.
     
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  5. PaulMinternational

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    This brings up a memory of a former traffic engineer I met many years ago for some reason. He lost his job and decided to try driving. Company gave him to me to train. He was the dumbest sob I ever meet when it came to anything that needed common sense. Me being a little bit on the abrasive side, one day when he did something really stupid I insulted him by saying something about the poor design and timing of traffic lights we were dealing with must have been one of his projects!
    He got all red faced and admitted he did the layout or something for it!
    He never did get his CDL, I told the owner he wasn’t going to make it and he left him go.
    I hope he isn’t back into traffic because he is dumb enough to build a traffic circle with no entrance or exit point if someone isn’t watching him the hole time!
     
  6. RockinChair

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    That remark wasn't directed at you anyway, so no worries.

    Same here. Now if we could just get all the four-wheelers on board (they're really bad about that around here)...
     
  7. gentleroger

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    If you want to address an overarching point, don't quote one guy.

    I stated explicitly the intersection is clear. It is his right of way, he has space, he needs to use it.




    That driver has now slowed the entire road down to 65 mph. Traffic that wants to run the speed limit must now pass him on the right, orcsrack up behind him. Slower traffic shouldn't move over until the last mile.

    Traffic must slow to allow him space, then slow further to allow others in. If everyone runs until the merge point and slowly increases space to allow for merging, then the road moves constantly.
     
  8. PaulMinternational

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    Last mile? You sure about that? How much room do you really need for a safe merge? One thing for sure we are not talking about miles. Most drivers can merge back and forth from lane to lane 10 or more times in a mile without any real effort. I would suggest a couple thousand feet before the lane ends.
     
  9. gentleroger

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    Yes, when traffic is flowing at normal highway speeds, big trucks need to start moving a mile from the merge point. It should take 7-10 sevonds to make a safe lane change in a big truck, so starting the process a mile out makes sense. Cut the speed, then merge later.
     
  10. PaulMinternational

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    Ok so let me get what your saying.

    I need to start my merge a mile out?
    Or I need to slow down a mile out?
    Or traffic needs to start adjusting speed to match the other lane a mile out?

    If I needed a complete mile to make a safe lane change I think I would hang it up.
     
  11. gentleroger

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    Yes to all three at the same time. As the opportunity to merge occurs,BIG TRUCK drivers should start merging within the last mile PROVIDED traffic is moving at normal highway speeds. They should not be making changes that result in slowing down the lane they are moving into.
     
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