The correct way to merge in a construction zone?

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  1. RockinChair

    RockinChair Road Train Member

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    Yeah, good luck with that.
     
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  3. gentleroger

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    Summer of 2021 I-41/894 south bound went down to 2 lanes at North Ave. At the start of the summer, back ups started at Silver Spring. I would run the right hand lane and pass 4 miles of stopped traffic by running the right hand lane. By the end of summer everyone had caught on and the back up started between Captiol and Burliegh. Overall, my trip time didn't change, except when someone tried to play traffic cop and blocked the right hand lane. I know it's in the same vein as the 'prisoner's dilemma', but it works - one way or the other.
     
  4. gentleroger

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    First of all, please be careful about who you call 'boy'.

    Second, we're not talking about avoiding accidents, we're talking about construction zone merging best practices. My trainee was driving north on I-41/94 approaching the Mitchell interchange driving the 55 mph speed limit while traffic was doing 60+. It took him 1.5 miles to safely move from lane 1 to lane 3 to exit onto I-43 north. Being aware of your surroundings doesn't mean you can move wherever you want whenever you want to. He had to adjust his speed up to the speed of everyone else, wait for a gap, and move into it before repeating for the second lane change.

    If traffic is flowing, big trucks should be moving to the lane they need starting 1 mile before the need it. If traffic is sluggish or stop and go, they can and should wait to move over.
     
  5. PaulMinternational

    PaulMinternational Road Train Member

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    Don’t sweat it, when you get old you call everyone something they don’t like once in awhile. You remind me of my Boy trying so hard to focus on one thing and forgetting several others at the same time. He gets upset when I call him Boy too, guess at his age he has a point.

    No you were talking about making a plan and the word start. Insinuating no tentative plan. Think about that post and just how many times that plan was foiled by others in that same distance. Beside, behind, in front. How much needed to be taken into consideration and others reactions to the same that didn’t have any part of the plan.
    The only part of that plan that that worked as planned was my finish point.
    You say it takes a mile to plan ahead but at the same time what happens a mile ahead won’t always be what you planned for. Keep yourself aware of all surroundings at all times, finding yourself in a construction zone with lanes shifting, changing merge points, drivers making all kinds of weird decisions will almost always foil the best laid plan. Now what happens to your mile ahead plan ? Do you have an additional mile to make a new one? Were you focusing only on that empty spot? Now where do you put that truck if your plan wast constantly changing? If it took a mile to merge, change lanes or in this case fit that truck and trailer into a different spot of the road myself and 3 other drivers along with a few 4 wheelers would be dead.

    A smooth merge on a highway does not take a mile!
     
  6. REALITY098765

    REALITY098765 Road Train Member

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    If using 1 lane is the most efficient why do we have multi lane highways especially in metropolitan area's.

    And I like how people are justifying there actions even when they are in the wrong.

    I am 1 of those guys that will ease on down the empty lane to the merge point and just wait until i can merge, I don't try to force my way in just wait, If I get in fine, if not that's fine too. No pressure.
     
  7. PaulMinternational

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    If everyone would do thier part and make space for a smooth merge, when they get in sight of the lane closure everything would move smooth in both lanes. Heck I get cut off on a regular basis by trucks kicking into the passing lane at anything from 57 to 45 causing everyone to brake hard, when the speed limit is 65 or better just so they can let someone merge from an on ramp but they can’t just lift on the pedal a bit to let someone merge from a closing lane.
     
  8. REALITY098765

    REALITY098765 Road Train Member

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    But they won't so, we create more lanes to alleviate the problem. Now it doesn't fix the problem but really helps.
    Why doesn't everybody just drive in the same lane all the time if that is the most efficient??

    IDK, But that sounds like you are parking yourself in the middle lane. Smith system maybe?
     
  9. Val_Caldera

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  10. O.Henry

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    2 exit lanes backing up,and I was in the 3rd behind a 4 who passed a 3 car gap to merge,but passed it and drove to the end stopping a travel lane.
    Sorry,but stupid people do drive.
     
  11. PaulMinternational

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    No sir! Please tell me what gives you that impression?
    Is it that you don’t think 65 is a reasonable speed to pass a truck going between 57 and 45 poking along in a 65 zone?
    Is that you want to read something into my statement that isn’t there?
    Or you just feel like being sarcastic?

    Please don’t get me started on the “ Monkey In the Middle” those people have no clue what so ever!

    Don’t know anything about smith systems. I will say f they are responsible for the people cutting out in front of traffic moving at speed, and the Monkey hanging out in the middle I really don’t need to know anymore.
     
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