The Dmv.............help

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Southcarolinaman, Nov 30, 2007.

  1. Southcarolinaman

    Southcarolinaman Bobtail Member

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    Question. Yesterday I went to the DMV in SC. I was giving the test by a Oprah Winfrey look alike. She came out to the truck and I said hey, how are you doing? She stated, well I sure don't want to be out here, but I am so get started. Well, I finished the test and she smiled and said, well you failed you score a 84 and you have to score a 85. I ask what in the world did I miss. I have been tested on this for two weeks for 4 to 6 hours every day and have never missed any more than 1 thing.
    She stated that I called it a Brake chamber. I said yes? She stated it was not it was a pan cake. WTF? I stated I have never heard that before. She stated it was. Also the Slack adjuster is a Porkchop, Not a slack adjuster? Again WTF? I again stated I have never been told that before, she stated well you have now "son". Then she stated that I told her the Brake lights where to warn others that I was slowing down or stopping. Guess what. Wrong answer. Brake lights are just to make sure people see them... OK WTF again. Then I missed the lug nuts. She stated I said they where all present and none where missing, I saw no shiny treads or rust streaks which may be indicate looseness. OK... WRONG. I did not say that they hold the tire on, so I failed. OK I really pissed at this time. She told me I scored a 84 and need to score a 85. what else did I miss? She stated I called it a Pitman arm when it is not, It is a " I bone" OK, now I am really not sure what the *&^% she is talking about? she told me that she is sorry but I need to study for a few more weeks and then come back. We left and my trainer called and ask her supervisor about all this. The supervisor stated she would look into it and find out and call us back. Well she did. She stated they had to give me 11 more points for my test, but I only scored a 71 and that only gave me a 82? I had a 84 when I left? Why did I lose 13 more points? Once we where back at the school my trainer made me do the Pre-trip for her. I made a 106 out of a 108. Any way I have to go back Monday to the DMV and do this all over again. Question, Can I ask for a different person? And by the look at this list, was I wrong? I just want to get this over with. Does any one have any great words of wisdom here. Maybe I am wrong, but if I am, the DMV manual and the School I am in training at, does not use any of these terms. Also let me say, that I did miss saying the I was checking the fluid in the windshield washer. Hey I was wrong, no problem, But dang, A porkchop, a Pancake, a I Bone? What the hell is this a buffet? Every one at this school would say, that out of every one, I would pass the pre-trip with no problem. You have 45 min. to complete it and I can do it in 30 or less. I am very easy going, and I have no problem with any thing that I do wrong, just tell me I will correct the problem. But what is all this slang stuff? I have been in school for 4 weeks as of today. I have never been late or missed a day, I have a GPA of 99.7 out of 25 test. I am not some great trucker who knows every thing now, I now have the basics down, now I really get to learn what trucking is all about. Right now I know nothing. The last thing that I want is to Kill myself, or any one because I am unsafe and make unsafe choices. I want to do this right and be the best I can be. Wait I just join the Marines. Dang did not mean to do that. Any way any help I would be very greatful.

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  3. tinytim

    tinytim Road Train Member

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    Is it April 1st already?
     
  4. myminpins

    myminpins Road Train Member

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    Is this a joke? Are you freaking serious? A pancake? A porkchop? WTF?????? No way!!!!!
     
  5. Truckerjo

    Truckerjo Road Train Member

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    Well a pancake is a part "in" the brake chamber. "The brake chambers convert air pressure to mechanical motion. Most brake chambers are made in two parts that look like pie pans. A heavy rubber diaphragm (called a pancake) is placed between the lips of the two pieces, and a clamp is placed around the seam. Inside one piece is a large flat plate.One side of the plate rests on the diaphragm and the other has a push rod that goes through a hole in the center of the case. When air pressure enters the other side of the case, it pushes on the diaphragm, which pushes the plate and the push rod. There is a spring between the flat plate and the case to push the plate back when the air is released."


    She is wrong........ and lacks mechanical knowledge of air brake system...


    Pork chop is a "slang" name for a slack adjuster and is not a proper term...
    She is wrong.....


    Far as the lug nuts did you say the word "secure".???.. always say the word "secure" when identifying any part....... even if it does not make any sense



    Sounds like she just didn't like you... or the school you attended...

    I would make her wright down your answers (she has to if you request it) and get a copy... Thus having her removed because she is wrong and probably just using those reasons as a personal issue against you or the school to fail you....
     
  6. Southcarolinaman

    Southcarolinaman Bobtail Member

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  7. Southcarolinaman

    Southcarolinaman Bobtail Member

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    I wish I could say that it was April 1st... I also wish I could say just kidding. I am for real. I have never seen anything like it. I am good friends with the Captain of the Highway patrol in this area. He stated that she is a pure BI. He also done some research and she only passes 2% of the people she test the first round. I do not think it is a black vs. White thing, I think she hates every one the same. Like I said, I have only had my CDL permit for a few months, and I just completed 4 weeks of training. I do not think I am some trucking god, But I will bet you I will not miss more than a couple of things at the most on the Pre-trip. A year from now, I may not be able to do as good, but right now I can. As for Truckerjo, as secured. I forgot to add that on my post, but yes, every thing is properly mounted and secured, just the way the school stated to say it. I also ask for a copy of my test, the supervisior stated that she could see where she had wrote down 84 then erased it. She also stated that every thing was marked all over. She stated she feels like I was telling the truth, but she can not over ride her. WTF? A supervisior can't over ride an employee? Why not ? if your wrong wour wrong. I ask again can I please have a copy of the test, she stated she would call me back. she then call back and stated they lost it? Get real. You don't lose a %&^%%*% test. I made a call today to Mr. Jimmy Davis head of the CDL department for the State of SC DMV office. He stated he would investigate it and let me know. As for as she did not like me, all I said was Hey, How are you doing today. I guess that was not the right answer either. But, hey I am not going to cry over spilled milk what has been done is done and over with. All I want to know is can I have some one else test me? The Captain over the HP stated he thinks you can, but not sure he will find out, but it will be Monday. I test at 8:30am on Monday, so too late. Does any one know. I don't really care if she test me, but be fair. If I miss something then find, but not a prokchop, pancake, I bone. By the way What the heck is a I bone? Well just let me know.
     
  8. ontheroad

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    I have never heard of anything this ridiculous... and that even includes when I first moved out to California, and found
    out that the state's department that administrates Sales Tax for businesses is called the "State Board of Equalization"...
    jeez what drugs were those guys on??
    :biggrin_25521:


    If I were in that situation, I would do the following... On retesting, I would request another tester... if refused, I would
    request that all answers should be written down. Before she records any scoring of your answers, I would insist that
    I be provided with a copy of the test with the unaltered written answers. After being provided with that copy, I would
    have both the tester and supervisor score the test. If those BS terms were brought up again, I would insist that the
    supervisor provide written documentation that that terminology is considered the accepted primary definitions as
    outlined in the DMV published commercial drivers manual. If they could not provide that documentation, I would get
    Mr. Davis involved.

    Of course since I have not been in this situation, I could be completely full of it on this. I am not a lawyer and I do not play
    one on TV... so my response does not constitute legally binding representation. Some settling of contents may have occurred.
    Batteries not included. Not recommended for children under the age of three. Etc, etc. Oh, and SCMan... Semper Fi.

    :biggrin_25523:
     
  9. Goat88

    Goat88 Light Load Member

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    YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I get to tell another STORY!!!

    This is South Carolina. It's all about the money. Do this: ASK AROUND. Because EVERYONE fails their first time in SC. (I am seriously at a loss as to why the FEDS have not gotten involved in this scam).

    My CDL instructor was a NC Examiner. He took a student to SC and stood by and watched the student take the pre-trip. SC lady said "You failed". Then turned to my instructor and said "Are you his instructor?" He said "No, just a NC examiner, standing in for observation". She said "Um, Er, Well, we do things a bit differently in South Carolina". To which he replied "Apparently"....

    Bottom line is this: Don't feel bad and open your wallet back up. (Bend Over, You're in South Carolina). I've heard literally HUNDREDS of stories like yours. It's a #### shame, too, and should be investigated. (Hint, Hint)

    (I got mine in NC, as I am renting a place there while looking for some land). :biggrin_255:
     
  10. 379 Peterbilt

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    SCM,

    GEEZUZ that post is hilarious!!! I'm laughin' at the porkcop biach and all her slang, not you. Sitting on the sidelines here make the post funny as all git out.

    On a serious note, I would persue all options of see her fat ### fired if at all possible. I'd go as far up the chain of comand as it took. At least she deserves some discipline over that. A black woman correcting a white guy on proper english and terminology?? TFF!! What a cement head 'she be'...

    Oh yeah, let me guess - she has never driven OTR too right? I knew it.
     
  11. 379 Peterbilt

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    Another thought here - Have your trainer along with you on Monday and video the whole thing with working audio. Make it obvious to Oprah what is going on. Then use your word Brake chamber" and HER word as she says "pan cake".....Use your word "slack adjuster" and HER word 'porkchop' (pun there by the way lol)......Again you word "pitman arm and HER word "IBone).........

    Basical you would be replicating exactly as you did on the "failed" test, but include both your and her verbage. Then tell her you are going to show the video to your driving school class, and the instructors will be using it in the future with other studends in the future.

    The world has no place for deadbeats cement heads like her. There is absolutely no use for a fat bichty chick these days. Especially one in charge of impeeding someones carear and its advancement. Well, that's as clean as I can say it LOL.
     
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