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The Dreaded Electronic Logs

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by dancnoone, Nov 21, 2010.

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  1. Nov 25, 2010 #31
    Powder Joints

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    I'm not buying in to this elog, I do not believe it to be a bonus for the driver. It will certainly not raise wages or conditions for the drivers.

    But in the end I suppose its the driver own fault for not refusing loads or to travel when low on hours.

    It still does not fix all the time lost waiting for shippers / receivers and /or dispatchers trying to make up there minds.
     
    Powder Joints, Nov 25, 2010
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  3. Nov 25, 2010 #32
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    Backhauls and brokers. And another word not used in polite company that starts with B.

    The only good backhauls I do are regular ones going back home, the others are a surplus of unplanned events and unanswered questions with wasting horrible amounts of the 14 hours as a given. It always take an extra day to come back and they give me two extra to do it usually, so I can run it legally. Line 5 sounds good to me, but I have heard of that once? Oh, there was one load when I first started back on OTR that had me running very hard to make a delivery a few minutes late only to be queried by the young, smug, idiot receiver about why I wasn't there that morning instead of early afternoon, like I was supposed to be according to him.

    Peoplenet, when we used it, couldn't always put me in the right state, at the right time.

    The problem I see with the box is that even though it isn't always right, most people assume that it is. Carry your log book and/ or your loose leaf sheets, you just may need them when Big Brother goes off line.

    As far as saving time, the only thing I see that it will save me is from having to do a recap, otherwise, it's play with another balking piece of junk which will take more of my time.

    If we could log it like we have to do it, since we couldn't cheat it, in theory, it would be great, but it doesn't work well enough all the time to allow that.

    I almost envy my older friend, he won't have to try and make this work. As far as a shortage of drivers raising pay across the industry, I would advise not holding your breath waiting for that, it just may happen, but it could as easily go the other way,and everyone could be loading crap at ports to stick on trains or deliver it from the rail yard.
     
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  4. Nov 25, 2010 #33
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    What we have to do is become better educated ourselves and stop supporting frauds like the "ATA" who are basically yes men and get our own people elected to congress to represent us.
     
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    mizdageeragn Thanks this.
  5. Nov 25, 2010 #34
    shifty123

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    I kinda do like the elogs, because it gives me more time to do things that I want to do such as workingout, reading, talking, to the wife thenI can actually drive and work legal without having to worry about what my dispatcher may try to do.
     
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  7. Nov 25, 2010 #35
    dancnoone

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    Oh it has it's problems. Namely a pain in the ### when you want to run, and can't.

    It definitely improves conditions for the driver. Don't have the hours, tough #### for the load planner. On your 10 break, again tough #### for the load planner and dispatcher.

    No more pushing. My break is mine....all mine.

    True enough. I was given a load (actually 2) that I considered extremely tight for what hours I had. One was taken away from me by load planners who got nervous about my hours. The other I was allowed to run, squeaked into the truckstop with 7 minutes left on my 14.


    Also true. But, that's where logistics comes into play. That and a HUGE set of gonads on the customer service rep.

    Dispatch has me pre-planned most times, so no waiting there. If there are any issues. I simply notify someone. And they take it from there. Reschedule, repower, whatever.

    We're told NOT to allow a customer to smoke our hours into the "danger" zone before calling. They will allow us to sit for awhile. But once a certain threshold is crossed. The customer is contacted, and they work out an arrangement.

    The trailer can remain in the door until hell freezes over. But the tractor will not be hooked to it, after the 14 hour mark.

    They'll send another truck if needed. But the driver who is running out of hours....has to go.

    I try to schedule all live unloads to arrive early as possible, from my end. So far, I've managed to get in and out fairly quick.

    It's all new too me. But, I'm liking what I'm seeing so far.

    May be here cussing like hell next week though. :biggrin_2559:
     
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  8. Nov 25, 2010 #36
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    Keep this thread alive with the thoughts.

    I am intrigued by the leaving the trailer and sending another truck. This might just be the way it goes.
     
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  9. Nov 25, 2010 #37
    shifty123

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    My company is pretty much a pre planned/ dedicated type anyways. I won't say what I transport because I could give away whom I work for and I do't want to do that.B ut a little pre planning isn't bad. Plus my company does have a 15 min safe haven rule.

    Then again I'm learning how to work with the split break/ie sleeper orth rule. The split/sleeper birthrule isns't the answer for everything but you can use it as a tool. I won't say what I do because I don't want the ATA to put their noses into things that it shouldn't be in. I'm getting to dislike or trust them very much.
     
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  10. Nov 25, 2010 #38
    Roadmedic

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    When you really look at the ATA, you have the right to distrust them.

    They do not represent the driver. They only represent their members who are the truck companies and their desires.
     
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  11. Nov 25, 2010 #39
    shifty123

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    However we are professionals not anyless then lawyers or doctors. What we have to do like I said is educate ourselves and learn to support those in congress who will support us. We have the numbers we should be doing better then we are.

    Like doctors and lawyerrs we do have to learn to do our own enforcing like the AMA or BAR etc. We also have to start acting a little more professional and looking more professional.
     
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  12. Nov 25, 2010 #40
    shifty123

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    Very true, we have to support our own selves and continue to work at it.
     
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