The fake meat fad has finally been exposed as a complete waste of money

So, just wondering what the anti-meat people have for answers and solutions to how to move forward if an industry that is probably around a hundred billion a year or more, just guessing, went away? What should the people do who’ve spent their whole lives building their ranch and herd do for income? They can’t sell out because their land is virtually worthless at that point because nobody would be looking to graze anything. How about the farmers? With that whole piece of the market gone commodity prices would drop. Gas prices would rise because government mandated ethanol production would slow down since there’s no longer a market for their byproducts since there won’t be a need for livestock feed. Then you have the livestock haulers who would be looking for work which would mean they’d either sell out or move into a different segment of trucking. You’d also have reefer guys looking for work, so that seems like a lot of saturation in other segments of the industry. There’s also all the employees of the feedlots and packing plants. Could keep going on down the line and drag it out to all the businesses that support the beef industry, like feed trucks and farm equipment companies and electricians and parts stores and on down the line, but at the end of the day it’s probably easier to just keep eating meat.

 

So i read the articles, the first is an opinion peice being just as sanctimonious about how the COO of beyond meat bit a guy during a road rage incident... no substance, then launches into a diatribe about how cheap money in the financial sector allowed them to launch the company with no real profitability.
The author of the article has a throwaway sentence about how pea based "meat" is just as bloody as the real thing, but doesnt back up the statement (i know there is an arguement to be made that farmed feilds arent exactly bloodless, but the author doesnt even address that).


Article 2 is slightly better, almost exclusively focusing on the lack of profitability/small consumer market of plant based meat. They do mention the lab grown meat has sky high development and production costs, which is true, but im unsure if initial high cost and difficulty of producing a thing at the beginning of its development cycle is truly an arguement against the product itself, lets remember that aluminum in the 1800s was so expensive that owning a set of aluminum tableware was a mark of prosperity for napoleon, being considered far more valuable than its weight in gold due to its scarcity.
("From a world production total of perhaps a few ounces per month in the decades before, by 1888, the largest U.S. aluminum company (the one that became Alcoa) could produce almost 50 pounds of aluminum each day. Within 20 years, it had to ship out 88,000 pounds per day to meet demand. As production soared, prices plummeted. In the mid-1800s, the first aluminum ingots on the market went for $550 per pound. Fifty years later, not even adjusting for inflation, it cost 25 cents for the same amount.")


I dont particularly care one way or another about it as a product, if it tastes good, ill eat it, if it doesnt i wont, but just because i prefer romaine lettuce to kale doesnt mean i want kale production to end, no matter how overpriced

 

So now we are going to compare eating meat to slavery???? I feel dumber for even reading that trash.

 

What else would you call it when you confine something against its will in order for it to serve you?

 

Ever seen cattle in a large pasture? Are they at the fences trying to get out? Or how about cattle confined “against their will” on corn stalks with only a single strand of electric fence that they could easily jump over as the only thing between them and their freedom? Cattle are content with food and water. Go open a gate sometime and see if they come rushing out to explore their world of newfound freedom or if they stay where their food and water is. When you move cattle to a new pasture you always take them to the water source. Why? Because when they need water they will try and go back to the last place they got it unless they are shown a water source where they are currently.

 

I don't think most people want the industry to disappear overnight, if at all. Most of these issues with labor will solve themselves over time, like with the introduction of the printing press or the automobile. Most feed being grown for livestock would end up going to people, so there will still be demand and byproducts. A lot of people will be able to switch to other jobs. Gas prices would rise because gas companies are greedy. Even in the unlikely event that the livestock industry has to change, electric vehicles would be mainstream long before then. I don't think there are any impossible barriers, just inconvenient ones for some.

 

You’ve not been exposed to the raising of livestock have you.

 

Would you pray to Zeus or Odin if you were on your deathbed, or a dangerous situation? If you wouldn't because you don't believe they exist why would an atheist pray to the christian god in the same situation? They don't believe for whatever reason. Usually a logical conclusion.

I'm not saying that it's deliberate torture of cattle, just that those who are morally vegan are often of the belief that at least some of the conditions that livestock, and these days chickens on mega farms, go through before slaughter are cruel and unnecessary.

 

Ted Nugent did a great rant on this, saying if you want to kill things then go vegetarian. Because all bugs and animals can affect the yield of a crop so everything must die to support vegetation.

Whereas only the protein stock needs to die.

 

Do know why a lot of pasture land is pasture land? Because it’s not possible to farm it. Look around, how many flat pastures for grazing livestock do you see? So explain to me how people will shift to growing plants for people on land that doesn’t make sense to farm.