The first U.S. layoffs from the coronavirus are here

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  1. mjd4277

    mjd4277 Road Train Member

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    A lot of firearm stores are seeing A LOT of business right now.
    Coronavirus triggers massive spike in firearms and ammunition sales
     
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  3. thaistick

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  4. x1Heavy

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    Not quite.

    Rationing would equal a war footing, enforced by coupon points and your value to the USA war effort.

    For example you are issued 48 points renewing every friday midnight, A car = ten gallons gas a month and a can of cambells soup is 6 points in 1942 against the ration book. Makes you think what you are going to get and keeps the good food flowing to the troops.

    We fielded about 10 to 20 million troops in 5 years.

    If we were at war, using a data source a few years old, we can call up 5 million reserve and inactive give or take. Then there is about 9 to 15 million of 16 to 30 year olds fighting age of each gender. Absolute call up including Militia age to 45 will stand about 60 million. Vets are another 20 million that are possibly physically able to get to the front easily enough or frees up active duty to send him or her to the front.

    Takes 6 months to train the fighting age to obey orders, drill of arms and so on. These would be the replacements. Some will get through a year if they showed promise for other more important responsibility.

    China on the other hand whistles up 2 million in the past boots on the ground within 1 day.

    IF Arkansas needed her Military 39th Mech Infantry Division, it would take about 12 hours to finish a full roll call at each armory, another 4 to 6 to complete the minimum battle issue of rifles on down to all of them and another 2 to have them all in vehicles at the gate standing to 15 minute readiness. About a day. Ammunition, bombs etc for our fighters (We have a F16 wing such as it is among other assets) will have to be drawn from USAF stocks.

    In 2003 we stood almost 9000 to Iraq and about 2500 were not elgible to be Title Federal Deployed activeduty so we kept them home for other things.
     
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  5. x1Heavy

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    agreed.

    I was out of deep storage with ammuniton two weeks ago and already have chosen one of two future purchasing of weapons. Generally for home defense but will be equipped to take Deer or some such at 200 yards if the future is truly bad. That would be my chosen role in a post modern society to hunt food for the camp. As well as a firewood man.
     
  6. brsims

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    On how to do it wrong and die faster?

    Stock with the "28 Days Later" cast. They were smart. Hole up until everything dies down, then bug out to the country where you can start building a safe, fortified farm.
     
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  7. brsims

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    Many are expecting this to last a heckuva a lot longer than the old two week estimate.

    Besides, Gov't is talking bailouts, and GM ALWAYS has their hand out for taxpayer money!
     
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  8. Infosaur

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    I can't really wrap my head around macro economics, but I suppose there's some reason why we haven't shut the markets down.

    At the very least a restriction on algorithms? Those things can make more trades than is humanly possible, and the robots are in a panic! That's how the Dow can hit the curbs within minutes of opening bell.
     
  9. WildTiger1990

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    Well to be fair , if I remember correctly GM completely paid off , all debt he borrowed from taxpayers in 2008-09 crisis.
    Same will go to airlines, hotels , Boeing etc. They will pay it back eventually , cause people will gonna travel again, will need planes to fly again etc.
     
  10. ZVar

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    Not really. GM did pay back a good portion, but something like 11 billion is what wasn't paid back. Government simply forgave that debt.


    U.S. government says it lost $11.2 billion on GM bailout
     
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  11. Infosaur

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    Not only that, I could never figure it all out and most journalists can't get accurate details these days, but something happened like GM split into two corporations. One corporation was all the automotive operations, management, supply lines, and a few other things.

    The other corporation was the smoking remains of the finance division (GMAC Credit?), the UAW pension fund, a few acquisitions from the 80's like satellite manufacturing and shared tech firms. I don't remember the details but it was a smoking pile of bad debt and non-profitable dead end businesses. I don't know what happened to it, what it was ultimately named but it vanished.
     
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