The Food Service Rant thread

Freightliner smart shift is horse ####.

Who the #### engineered this piece of crap. God help you if you have to back up a grade. Or just back up. Most counterintuitive thing I've ever seen.

3 ft long strip of tread blew off a steer tire yesterday just a few miles out from the warehouse, crawled back and swapped with this ridiculous piece. Saw the tire guy replacing it when I got back today so should have my trusty 10 back in the morning.

 

We don't have to many auto shifts at GFS. A lot of Eaton Fuller 10 speeds.

 

No clutch to feather and control your speed backing up just the go pedal. Lurches when you start moving, then it's going to fast and you gotta brake and it stops, then you gotta start all over again UGH.

or maybe I just suck I dunno.

I have 2 stops you need to back up a grade to the docks (both 90° blind side off busy narrow streets), and once you hit the grade you gotta mash the throttle to keep it going and slam into the dock knocking over a pallet like I did, or it pussys out and rolls back into the street.

Manual mode works better on Ann Arbor terrain, but this tranny, after 2 days of use imo is a BFT (big fat turd).

And the tractor is a longer wheelbase so all my angles were ####ed up kept wondering why it was taking an hour for the back end to come around then I looked at it in the light of day and noticed crap that's way longer than my regular unit.

 

Is it a dt12 or eaton? I liked the dt12 mated to the dd15, by no means am I a fan of autos but it's decent and really doesn't lurch that much

 

The Detroit trans isn't too bad. It will idle forward and reverse. It won't disengage the clutch until the brake pedal is pressed. I can't stand driving them, though. The shift points are all effed up in the higher gears and require lots of manual shifting, the droop with the cruise on is really annoying, and the way it disengages the clutch when going downhill just seems wrong. And trying to use the engine brake in auto mode makes it downshift two gears and the engine just screams. Works okay in manual. Way too much input from me to be automatic.

The Volvo I-shift works pretty well all the way around.

I'm currently driving one of the last of our good trucks, a '13 Volvo with a ten speed.

 

This is an 07 or 08 Columbia business class daycab single screw with a detroit series 60.

I had to drive it again today as mine went for PM, hated it slightly less but still sucks.

 

Does your company limit the rpms, we have ryder trucks with dd15/455 with about 1/3 being autos and they governed the trucks at 17-1800. One unit i even have the # memorized 483443 because its governed at 1550rpm. I've had more than a few volvo d11's get me on a hill

 

We had a few '12 DD15s that went to 1600, but they're gone now. The DD13s will rev to 1800.

Our Volvos are all D13s. Those will rev pretty high. I don't really know how high, as they fall off hard around 1600, so I just grab another gear.

 

I would cruise right around 1375 with 2.64 @62 but those extra few rpms would of helped on the hills and probably get better fuel mileage. We had a few autos with the 505 that ryder didn't touch left them at 505 and didn't gov the rpms. 1750tq instead of 1550 and they were a different beast. You can't have a newer engine limited to 1550-16 once in a while you need to get the rpms up to burn some soot out of that dpf or you will clog it up quick. The un governed trucks had less regen's.

We have no apu so we idle a lot and guess what no high idle on it. I was told the new dd don't need to be im a bit skeptical there