The Fuel Hauler Thread

Discussion in 'Tanker, Bulk and Dump Trucking Forum' started by Cali kid, Jul 28, 2015.

  1. 77smartin

    77smartin Road Train Member

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    My 3 1/2 year old boy could figure out how open everything up in less than 10 minutes...not to complicated...he would however have trouble getting the truck to move...maybe.
     
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  3. Cali kid

    Cali kid Road Train Member

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    My company does issue each driver a light oil guidebook that illustrates with pictures of how to load and unload gasoline . As for being a physical job before I got into trucking my jobs where always physical, and I was taught hard work at a young age. I think the guys doing food service have a much more physical job then us, even LTL.
     
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  4. BACON XXL

    BACON XXL Light Load Member

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    QUESTION ABOUT TANK CHARTS
    The company I just started with does 90% pump loads. That said, most of the tanks are above ground tanks. I found a site that I can build my own tank charts by having the measurements of the tank. http://www.hamiltontanks.com/tankCharts.php
    I have made up the following:
    20k 120"x34' 15k 120"x26' 12k 96"x32' 10k 96"x27' 8k 96"x21'4"
    HERE IS THE QUESTION: What other tank charts would you recommend having? And what (if any) would be the most common 6k tank measurements be? I remember having a few at my last job, though we rarely stuck tanks. Company wanted us using ATG readings.

    Thanks for the help!
     
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  5. chalupa

    chalupa Road Train Member

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    My 2 cents Bacon,
    Every tank is different. I can get 2 new rail cars from the same mfg , both rated at 22,000 gallons and the strapping charts will be different. Same with tank wagons.

    If you tote 4000 gallons to pump in a 10,000 gallon and the 10 is less than half, I don't see a problem. If your doing a tight fit it's possible your going to get it on the ground.

    IMO you need the strapping chart for the particular tank or they don't get the load. Do not let their problem become your problem.

    JMO
     
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  6. GasHauler

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    You can call the manufacture and they will give you a chart for that specific tank if the tank is made by them. If it's an aboveground tank and made right on the site when built you might want to call a large company that does business their like BP, Shell, or any of them that have a lab. Even the tank farm should be able to tell you. Have you tried to talk with anyone at the farm. There's no shame in asking for something like this.
     
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  7. chalupa

    chalupa Road Train Member

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    He makes valid points.......and I'll toss in one more to live by. When you transfer a fluid, make sure you know where it's going and verify it has arrived in the intended location. That means tracing piping, looking at sight glasses and putting your hand on the receiver to feel the rumble.

    Had a plant operator throw me under the bus once......pointed at the wrong pipe. Lucky for me I had the "document" signed. Also had a station owner give me the wrong strapping chart. That one didn't end well.
    ( for the clerk )

    I was lucky and escaped both times...BUT....I was under the spot light and guilty of everything until cleared....and even then , still a suspect for moons to come.

    Welcome to trucking.........
     
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  8. BACON XXL

    BACON XXL Light Load Member

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    Hey all. Thanks for the info. I'm one of those "nothing above 90% guys" . I do not like cleaning up messes. From what I have seen so far, there are a bunch of places where they order and there are no ways to gage the tanks... make me nervous yes, but they will be cleaning it up if it does not fit. The others that I can gage, I want to come up with charts. I have a tape and can come pretty close I think. Hamilton tanks are in C-bus OH, so that is what most tanks I have ran into are.

    Thanks for all the help! I still have a ton of questions hope yall don't mind me askin!
     
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  9. GasHauler

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    That must be unloading at the refinery or another place besides a gasoline station. We would only unload at a place other than a station when the mix was screwed up so bad you could not fix it at the rack. There was this one common carrier that loaded diesel on top of a tanker full of ethanol which turned out to be very costly to the driver and that company. You would think you could just ship that load back to the refinery but they will not take it because the entire mix is not trans-mix but hazardous waste.

    Your example is positive proof that a driver should always check and then re-check the hook-ups before any valve is opened. I would use a flashlight even in the day time. I had my routine down for me and stuck to it for every load. In the beginning of my shift I would make a copy of my dispatch sheet so I could write all over it. Then at the end of the shift I would take the copy and transfer any information if needed onto the original dispatch. I would also turn the compartment product markers over to the product that is going to be loaded into that compartment. I would change the marker only if another product was going to be loaded into that same compartment. I've seen some compartment product markers with 5 or 6 different products on them. I did that so when the truck pulled onto the loading rack it was ready to load. Of course it was all doubled checked.

    The point of all this is to show a new driver that you the driver is responsible for the load. Check and re-check every compartment all day long. Go slow if you need to but make sure you are right. Good job.
     
  10. BACON XXL

    BACON XXL Light Load Member

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    • One thing we did at my last job was to use "cow tags". It is those ear tags they use to ID cattle and hogs. Different colors for the respective products. I used them for 9 years. I need to get another set...
     
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  11. 22tanker

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    Hey, y'all go join the group "American fuel haulers" on Facebook. It's just a group of fuel haulers from around the country interacting and socializing
     
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