The Future of Old Iron.
Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by tommymonza, Feb 3, 2021.
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I’d opt for getting a newer truck. Those of you who want to keep your old trucks I’m sure it won’t be a problem in the future. Just remember the government owns the roads and therefore has every right to say what can be driven down them. I’m sure they will make beautiful yard ornaments. I don’t like it either, but I believe it’s coming. Old iron will survive, but it will be seen at truck shows and not on American highways in the future I predict.
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Those with newer trucks say "old iron is going away"
None of us who driver older equipment(well I have a glider) want to go with anything new....
@tommymonza Spend that 10-15k bringing your truck up to par and run it for a few years , or spend it on DEF/DPF issues one or two visits in a shop .......cke, DeereRunner97, bzinger and 8 others Thank this. -
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This is something I thought quite a bit about. As some of you know I put the nice big cam Cummins in my 95 Freightliner and it was the greatest thing I ever did and I absolutely love it and it's exactly perfect for me. If I have my way I will continue to repair that truck and keep it rolling until I move into another business or retire or whatever. I have zero desire for anything else.
Someone pointed out to me that the EPA serves at the pleasure of the president. This means that they really do not have to pass legislation to do certain things. However, that also means that if it's through executive order then another president could reverse that. If I'm missing anything please let me know. Now they could try to force the states to pass carb regulations but that's a different story.
The way I see it, if nothing happens this year, it's not going to happen for at least another four. Much like when they enacted carb, they should give you a little time, like a few years to get up-to-date and probably give you credits or whatever to buy a newer truck. That seems silly to me if they're going to give you a few years to get up-to-date but they do that in their second third or fourth year in office, especially if the next president can reverse that. Really, there is no real reason to Outlaw those trucks because as time goes on less and less are on the road each year. How many B model Macks do you see going down the road? So who knows it may never happen. Newer technology like electric or hybrid or whatever may come along and that may alter the landscape itself. Who knows?
So honestly Tommy I was in your shoes a few years ago. If I were you I would work it over and put it to work. Either that or you have to sell it and get the money back out of it because you already have so much money into it and if they outlaw the truck it's not going to be worth anything anyway. Whatever you do you should do now this year whether you work it over or whether you sell it. It's going to take you time to work it over. If you're going to do it I say get started right away. If you put $15,000 into it you'll make that back your first year and after that you have to see what happens.
I remember seeing pictures of that truck, and it seems like a really nice truck. That is the nicest of all the international trucks that are out there and it seems like you have a good one.
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I’m not worried about it at all. If and when it happens, it will be phased in. Small Companies might even be exempt. If anything they’ll do it through tax incentives for newer equipment. The bigger problem is the Trucking Business as a whole. Too much BS already, too much time and energy needs to be invested for return. Hardly worth the effort.
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I don't get the endless idling.
The fuel burn plus the wear on the engine and the accessories such as the air compressor , alternator, power steering pump, injector pump, turbo, fan clutch, throw out bearing , transmission input bearing.
These accessories that are getting worn out is something nobody ever gives and consideration towards, all they think of is the motor by itself.
Added all up those accessories cost as much as a complete long block .
A good set of separate auxiliary batteries and a Webasco will pay for themselves in 6 months on fuel alone without even taking wear and tear to the main powerplant into account.Last edited: Feb 4, 2021
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